Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
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Sorry I said you're intelligent..?
I said the people disagreeing with ong are presenting intelligent arguments. Whether or not they're "right" isn't what I'm saying.


I never said that, BTW.

If anything, I'm saying that discussing ong's position on Islam is an avoidable bit of nonsense. It comes up from time to time, and I admit I've had my go at him, but when I realized that he's trying to change my mind (and I his), and that he's not really open to changing his mind (me, neither), it just became a thing to acknowledge and move on.

We agree on some stuff, not everything. Talking about stuff we don't yet know we disagree on is fun. Talking about stuff we already know we disagree on isn't. For me.

Frankly, if you guys want to drop another 3 pages on this, that's fine.
Again, great post. It takes a lot to recognize these sorts of no wins-- as you can see I still have a lot of trouble resisting the urge to argue, but I'm trying to work towards this sort of ability to give it a rest. Also, the bolded warms my cynical heart.