*** The Official MAGAposting thread ***

[MadMojoMonkey]

Have you met any Satanists? They're pretty chill.
If they're breaking laws, then that's the problem. If they just run around in goth clothes and are generally sad, then that's fine. Great, even.

If they like to stand on tables in public places with a stigmata in red ink on their wrists, then that's a risk they're taking. If they get assaulted for doing so, I've never heard one cry religious persecution, which it clearly is.
Melodramatic bunch, sure, but pretty chill.

I've seen that stuff. If you laugh at how ridiculous the injection of that imagery is in any modern context, they're likely to smile back at you.


BTW, have you read the Satanic Bible? If not, you should. I bet it's nothing at all like what you think it is.
It's basically a manifesto that says, "Look. People everywhere want to control you. One of the ways they try to do so is by fabricating a morality system and using it to shame you into behaving differently. The truth is that their morality system is a cartoon, some made-up BS that may or may not have any relevance to your life. The truth is that you know what is right and wrong, good and bad, without being told. There's a learning process for everyone, and mistakes will be made, but it's much better for everyone involved if we follow our own inner sense of morality than to blindly follow someone else's."

[Poopadoop]

BTW, have you read the Satanic Bible?

I'm guessing he hasn't. More likely he's going with what he hears from Quora or some other reputable source of anecdotal non-evidence.

If not, you should. I bet it's nothing at all like what you think it is.

Careful, you're getting dangerously close to asking him to open his mind here.

It's basically a manifesto that says, "Look. People everywhere want to control you. One of the ways they try to do so is by fabricating a morality system and using it to shame you into behaving differently. The truth is that their morality system is a cartoon, some made-up BS that may or may not have any relevance to your life. The truth is that you know what is right and wrong, good and bad, without being told. There's a learning process for everyone, and mistakes will be made, but it's much better for everyone involved if we follow our own inner sense of morality than to blindly follow someone else's."

See, I did not know this. But it doesn't surprise me to learn the religion is not actually about worshipping Beelzebub.

[OngBonga]

But you're ok with enforcing our value systems on others...

Why the fuck else do they want to move here?

[Poopadoop]

Why the fuck else do they want to move here?

Are you joking?

[OngBonga]

Are you joking?

Well, answer it. Or shall I answer for you?

Because their country is shit and ours isn't.

[OngBonga]

As for anti-vaxers... I'm not going to defend people who refuse to vaccinate their children. That's putting your children at risk because of paranoia.

But an adult can do as he pleases to his own body, whether that be refuse a vaccine for any reason, smoke, drink paint, whatever.

[OngBonga]

But if they live here, they have to live under our laws.

Yeah. This is where we disagree about whether or not Sharia is an active system of law in the UK.

[Poopadoop]

Yeah. This is where we disagree about whether or not Sharia is an active system of law in the UK.

Where I grew up there was a large population of Mormons, like 10% of the total population was Mormon. They had their own code of conduct which meant they weren't allowed to drink, swear, or take any drugs (including caffeine). So this was a form of Sharia Law if you will. Their values also conflicted with Christian values of individual freedom, as exemplified in the law (e.g., it's not against the law to drink coffee). But since their 'laws' only applied to Mormons, you know what? I didn't care one bit.

When a Muslim comes around and starts telling me I need to read the Koran and pray five times a day towards Mecca, I'll get on your bandwagon.

[OngBonga]

But since their 'laws' only applied to Mormons, you know what? I didn't care one bit.

I'll bet if you started to actually dig around, you'd find cause for outrage. Mormons are cunts.

But with regard to Sharia in UK... that's not something I'm comfortable with. Why? Because it discriminates against women. If Mormon law also discriminates against women, then I would not accept that either. If their law is compatible with our law, then fair enough. Sharia is not compatible with our laws.

[OngBonga]

We'd have no immigrants in that case. You have to be pretty ignorant of history to think the UK is loved and respected around the world.

Naive.

Also, if someone doesn't respect the UK, then don't fucking come to the UK.

How is that even remotely prejudiced or immoral?

Anyone who hates the UK can fuck right off to somewhere that isn't the UK.

[Poopadoop]

Naive.

Pot kettle black.

Go around the world and ask people what they think of the UK (or at the least the English). You're not all you think you are mate.

Also, if someone doesn't respect the UK, then don't fucking come to the UK.

How is that even remotely prejudiced or immoral?

Anyone who hates the UK can fuck right off to somewhere that isn't the UK.

Well of course they shouldn't come here if they hate it. But they don't have to love it do they? Why? You want peaceful productive citizens. What do you care if they tear up when they hear God Save the Queen? And if they weren't born here, why would they?

[Poopadoop]

I'll bet if you started to actually dig around, you'd find cause for outrage. Mormons are cunts.

Dig around where?

I can tell you first hand the mormons where i grew up were not doing anything illegal or even immoral. The worst thing they did was visit your house and try to convert you once in a while. You'd tell them to fuck off and they'd be like 'okaly dokaly' and off they went.

But with regard to Sharia in UK... that's not something I'm comfortable with. Why? Because it discriminates against women. If Mormon law also discriminates against women, then I would not accept that either. If their law is compatible with our law, then fair enough. Sharia is not compatible with our laws.

If a Muslim woman in the UK wants to renounce her religion, there's no stopping her.

[OngBonga]

Go around the world and ask people what they think of the UK (or at the least the English). You're not all you think you are mate.

Many think we're cunts. Many think we were once the greatest nation that ever existed.

Ask the Chinese. Or the Japanese. Or even the Indians. You'll get a mixed bag in India, but a LOT of Indians respect the British, despite the fact we colonised them.

[OngBonga]

But they don't to love it do they?

Yes.

[OngBonga]

But they don't to love it do they? Why?

Why? Because those who do are more desirable than those who don't. It's quite simple really. How is it not obvious that it would be of more benefit to us to have only those who love the UK?

I'm using the word "love" here casually. Like, respect the culture, not necessarily the history. I don't exactly admire wartime Japanese history, but I love their culture.