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    There were so many great moments yesterday. This was one of my favorites:

    https://youtu.be/Z4C86H94Z2g?t=155

    Someone had to have had the idea to do this, then made an intern do the graphic, go to a print shop, have the print shop guy ask: what is this for, a rally or something? And then the intern has to go: No, it's for congress actually. We'll put that up in congress. - And then you put that up in congress and all your republican friends go: this makes our point so well, we won't have to ask a single question for the next seven hours!
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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    There were so many great moments yesterday. This was one of my favorites:
    +1

    Every time I think the Fake Reality Star Conman President show can't get any better, it does.

    Today, Trump told reporters that Kim told him he didn't know anything about what happened to that American student who came back in a coma, and he believed him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    +1

    Every time I think the Fake Reality Star Conman President show can't get any better, it does.

    Today, Trump told reporters that Kim told him he didn't know anything about what happened to that American student who came back in a coma, and he believed him.
    You know what, I actually do believe Kim on that one. NK does not have a history of torturing civilian foreign prisoners, and there are other plausible explanations for Wamblier's condition. What made Trumps comment hilarious was that he managed to throw everyone under the bus. He seemed to assume that there was torture involved, which there is no proof of, and KJU certainly didn't admit, and then he flips it around and says he believes KJU didn't know about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    You know what, I actually do believe Kim on that one. NK does not have a history of torturing civilian foreign prisoners, and there are other plausible explanations for Wamblier's condition. What made Trumps comment hilarious was that he managed to throw everyone under the bus. He seemed to assume that there was torture involved, which there is no proof of, and KJU certainly didn't admit, and then he flips it around and says he believes KJU didn't know about it.
    I think the evidence in that case is pretty scant - some say the guy attempted suicide; he had a heart attack (at 22?) there's no evidence he got beat up, etc.; but I'm sure there's ways to almost kill someone that can't be traced months later. So I'm keeping an open mind on what actually happened. It's pretty unusual for someone young and in seemingly good health to mysteriously go into a coma though I must say.

    As for Trump, his comments today are funny on a couple of levels:

    a) because like you said it completely contradicts Trump's previous claim that the guy was horribly tortured.

    b) because it's consistent with how Trump reacts to a dictator pleading innocent - just take him at his word and ignore everyone else.

    c) because the summit failed (shock) and, well, I guess that's funny in a different way. That elusive Nobel Peace Prize is still up for grabs I guess!
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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    There were so many great moments yesterday. This was one of my favorites:

    https://youtu.be/Z4C86H94Z2g?t=155

    Someone had to have had the idea to do this, then made an intern do the graphic, go to a print shop, have the print shop guy ask: what is this for, a rally or something? And then the intern has to go: No, it's for congress actually. We'll put that up in congress. - And then you put that up in congress and all your republican friends go: this makes our point so well, we won't have to ask a single question for the next seven hours!
    As if any one of them got into office without lying.
    As if any human doesn't lie sometimes.

    If that's all you got, then you got nothing. The fact that a person has lied doesn't mean they are evermore incapable of telling the truth.

    I hope I get a chance to review the documents he submitted today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    As if any one of them got into office without lying.
    As if any human doesn't lie sometimes.

    If that's all you got, then you got nothing.
    Obviously you missed the part where his pants were on fire.

    That's the clincher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Obviously you missed the part where his pants were on fire.

    That's the clincher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    I hope I get a chance to review the documents he submitted today.
    Well it's sketchy at best. We got this one cheque signed by someone who goes by the name of AmtstnununuA
    https://edition.cnn.com/2019/02/27/p...hen/index.html

    I think the most important part was AOC's questioning which opens up the possibility to subpoena Trump's tax returns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    Well it's sketchy at best. We got this one cheque signed by someone who goes by the name of AmtstnununuA
    https://edition.cnn.com/2019/02/27/p...hen/index.html
    haha that is definitely Trump's scrabble. I hope that one gets into a court someday.


    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    I think the most important part was AOC's questioning which opens up the possibility to subpoena Trump's tax returns.
    yeah, 'cause they didn't have enough excuses to do that already
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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    Well it's sketchy at best. We got this one cheque signed by someone who goes by the name of AmtstnununuA
    https://edition.cnn.com/2019/02/27/p...hen/index.html

    I think the most important part was AOC's questioning which opens up the possibility to subpoena Trump's tax returns.
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    Isn't it really about something else, deeper than a simple demand that your culture stay the same as it is now?
    I thought I addressed this. I'm not bothered about things staying the same. I want culture to get better. If Islam brought with it cultural enrichment, I wouldn't have a problem.

    Christianity is going on 2,000 years old and these values you ascribe to Christian culture haven't even been around for 100 years, yet.
    I don't ascribe recent tolerance of homosexuals to Christian values. I credit Christianity with forming the basis of our moral framework. Thankfully, in modern times we've begun to recognise Christianity is far from perfect, and have allowed our culture to evolve.

    (in America. I think you guys are a bit more chill about gay marriage in the UK, so feel free to correct me if I'm mistaken.)
    The Church here don't have nearly as much influence in state policy, compared to USA. Homophobia obviously still exists in the UK, but it's much better today than even when I was a child, I can see how much things have changed in my lifetime. Gay marriage certainly still has its opponents here, but they are in the minority.

    Furthermore, it's Christian values that fight against women's right to abortion, it's Christian values that continue to persecute homosexuals.
    Not here. I accept Christianity has some very serious flaws, I'm glad I live in a country where we have tended to abandon those flaws.

    You can respect whatever you like. If you say you "have to" from a purely subjective, "otherwise I'm lying to myself" position, then I totally get that.
    I have to recognise that Christianity plays a very important role in British history. Would I change that if I somehow could? It could be worse. We have a very long and varied history. Some of it I'm proud of, some of it ashamed of. But when I'm stood next to a 1000 year old church, imagining what life was like in my backyard back in those times, I have a tinge of respect for the role that Christianity has played through the entire existence of that church. It's been the focus of countless generations of villagers, still to this day.

    This isn't just my national history, it's my local history too. So yes, I respect Christian influence, even if I struggle to respect Christianity itself.

    "those people don't belong here because they don't want to assimilate into my culture, they want to inundate my culture with their own."
    Yes, pretty much. If that culture just happens to be compatible with ours, it's not a problem. Many immigrants have come here and enriched our culture... Chinese, Carribean, Indian, Polish... they have all faced discrimination, but I am happy we allowed these guys in. I am only against mass Islamic immigration. I feel it's the least compatible culture with ours, we could pick virtually any other source of immigration and have improved cultural benefits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    Well it's sketchy at best. We got this one cheque signed by someone who goes by the name of AmtstnununuA
    https://edition.cnn.com/2019/02/27/p...hen/index.html

    I think the most important part was AOC's questioning which opens up the possibility to subpoena Trump's tax returns.
    LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL AOC ... god 2020 is going to be fun

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