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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Also there's the question of obstruction of justice. Hillary hasn't been caught trying to fire people to keep them from investigating her wrondoings, Trump has been blatant about it.
    No, she just threatened rape victims into silence.

    And Trump never fired anybody in order to prevent or encumber any investigation. That's an imagined talking point. We know this because no firing ever resulted in any diminished effectiveness or any investigation. We also know that Trump could have fired people to stop the investigation (namely Mueller), and did not do so.
  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    No, she just threatened rape victims into silence.
    Has this been proven? 'Cause it sounds like a crime to me.


    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    And Trump never fired anybody in order to prevent or encumber any investigation. That's an imagined talking point.
    He fired Comey, tried to fire Mueller, tried to order Sessions to make a statement and change the nature of the investigation. That's all real.
  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    He fired Comey, tried to fire Mueller, tried to order Sessions to make a statement and change the nature of the investigation. That's all real.
    Is any of that illegal?

    PS-I believe I've already explained the fallacy inherent in saying "tried to fire Mueller". He didn't need to "try". He could have, and didn't.
  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    Is any of that illegal?

    PS-I believe I've already explained the fallacy inherent in saying "tried to fire Mueller". He didn't need to "try". He could have, and didn't.
    Obstruction of justice is illegal yes.

    No, actually he couldn't have fired Mueller. He didn't have the authority. At best he could fire people until he found someone who was willing to fire Mueller, ala Saturday Night Massacre. That he didn't shows that he wasn't as desperate as Nixon, not that he didn't try to obstruct justice.
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Obstruction of justice is illegal yes.
    There's no evidence of this. Just suggestion, innuendo, and partisan wishful thinking.

    No, actually he couldn't have fired Mueller.
    Uh, yeah, he could. Remember how you've been yelling for two days about how he told McGahn to do it? That's Trump doing it. McGahn doesn't actually hold any office in the DOJ.
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    There's no evidence of this. Just suggestion, innuendo, and partisan wishful thinking.
    The Mueller report says otherwise. you should check it out.


    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    Uh, yeah, he could. Remember how you've been yelling for two days about how he told McGahn to do it? That's Trump doing it. McGahn doesn't actually hold any office in the DOJ.
    That makes no sense at all.

    McGahn couldn't do it, so Trump telling him to do it is him both being stupid and not knowing who has the authority there, and trying to obstruct justice by trying to fire Mueller.

    What is your argument? Because he ordered the wrong guy to do the firing it wasn't his intent to fire someone? Like by ordering Lewandowski to fire Sessions if he didn't follow his orders, his intent wasn't to fire Sessions?

    you don't get a pass 'cause you're too ignorant to know who to give your illegal orders to.
  7. #7
    yeah, this might be slimy, but it isn't going to stand up in court as a 'threat'.

    Broaddrick first spoke out about Hillary Clinton's attempts to silence her in 1999, when she told the Drudge Report that Hillary Clinton approached her at a political rally to thank her for keeping quiet about the alleged assault.

    "She caught me and took my hand and said, 'I am so happy to meet you. I want you to know that we appreciate everything you do for Bill,'" Broaddrick recalled. "I started to turn away and she held onto my hand and reiterated her phrase—looking less friendly and repeated her statement—'everything you do for Bill.'"

    Broaddrick said Hillary Clinton wouldn't let her "get away until she made her point."

    "She talked low, the smile faded on the second thank you," Broaddrick continued. "I just released her hand from mine and left the gathering."
  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    yeah, this might be slimy, but it isn't going to stand up in court as a 'threat'.
    Thank you for making my case that Trump isn't any slimier than anyone else
  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    Thank you for making my case that Trump isn't any slimier than anyone else
    I didn't and he is.

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