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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    nononono. Most have said they oppose it because it's a waste of money
    No they haven't. It's a moral issue and has been ever since ORANGE MAN BAD. Even the leftiest lefty wouldn't believe the "too expensive" argument. Illegal immigrants cost our economy $116B a year. $20B for a wall is a no-brainer.

    and because it wouldn't work.
    Walls work. Don't even try to argue that they don't. They do.

    Most illegal immigrants overstay their visa
    Diversion. 60+ thousand people a month are showing up at the border with no visa. That's a humongous problem by itself. If more immigrants are getting in other ways...that's a separate problem.

    most drugs come through points of entry.
    You took a misleading talking point and then warped it into a complete falsehood. For the record, the correct talking point that you were trying to cite was that "most drugs are confiscated at points of entry". But that's misleading. Who knows what percentage of total drugs that represents. And who knows how much drugs go between ports of entry.

    Suppose you had termites in your house. And when you sought a solution you were told "don't worry about it, most termites are in the forest anyway"

    What we do know is that fentnyl deaths have caused life expectancy in the US to decline for the first time in almost a century. So the drugs are getting in. Period.
    Last edited by TheSpoonald; 04-22-2019 at 02:12 PM.

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