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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    All that quote seems to be saying is that it's really easy to build an effective wall, and no design is particularly superior.
    The quote says each design has weaknesses (i.e., none are impregnable, presumably even by people without special skills/equipment). The best design was the steel slats, but get a cutting torch and a tank of acetylene and Oskar is $20b richer.

    It doesn't say whether the "best" design is also $20k per foot either. So it doesn't really seem settled.
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    “Only once did a tester manage to land a hook on top of the wall without help,” the AP reported, according to one source.
    This is a bit ambiguous. What kind of "help?" It could have just been another guy helping him throw it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    but get a cutting torch and a tank of acetylene and Oskar is $20b richer.
    Right...like it's just that easy. You could chip at it with a teaspoon and eventually break through if you were persistent enough. Didn't you see Shawshank?? The idea that you could cut through and make any meaningful breach of the border quickly enough to not get caught is just preposterous.

    The wall prototypes can't be climbed over. They can't be breached quickly enough to avoid detection. they have sensors that can identify underground tunnelling. If those sensors go 20 ft deep....I guess you could dig a tunnel 30feet deep. But then you've really got a deterrent there.

    Would you take your kids for miles through an underground tunnel, 30ft down, dug discreetly by criminals?? How bad would shit have to be in guatemala before you tried that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    Right...like it's just that easy. You could chip at it with a teaspoon and eventually break through if you were persistent enough. Didn't you see Shawshank?? The idea that you could cut through and make any meaningful breach of the border quickly enough to not get caught is just preposterous.
    How thick do you think these steel beams are? A cutting torch goes through steel pretty quick. A hacksaw, maybe an hour. So is your patrol going to cover every inch of the wall every hour?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    How thick do you think these steel beams are? A cutting torch goes through steel pretty quick. A hacksaw, maybe an hour.
    HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA have you ever tried to use a hacksaw to cut anything???

    If you think you can slice one of those beams in an hour...you're nuts. And by the way, you have to cut it twice to make a hole in the wall.

    And oh by the way, they're steel posts filled with concrete filled with rebar. I don't think your hacksaw blade will hold up.

    So is your patrol going to cover every inch of the wall every hour?
    I'll bet it's close to that. At least multiple times a day, at irregular intervals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA have you ever tried to use a hacksaw to cut anything???

    If you think you can slice one of those beams in an hour...you're nuts. And by the way, you have to cut it twice to make a hole in the wall.
    Try seconds
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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    wow....border patrol will never see that coming.

    ANd if you think you're gonna operate that wire by hand you're crazy. For $10 you can buy a modified chainsaw blade with handles so you can work it through logs by hand. See how that goes compared to a regular chainsaw.
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    But the whole discussion is irrelevant because Trump is not building a single foot of fence that wasn't fenced already.
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    As to "how can they possibly get down" I don't understand how you can possibly be this ignorant about your body and how it can overcome terrain, but here's some video from your favorite news source:
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    wow....border patrol will never see that coming.

    ANd if you think you're gonna operate that wire by hand you're crazy. For $10 you can buy a modified chainsaw blade with handles so you can work it through logs by hand. See how that goes compared to a regular chainsaw.
    Yeah cause no immigrant ever had access to a source of electricity, like a small gas generator.
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    You genuinely believed that US military could not do that in three weeks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    Haha. Or you could use the thermite they used to bring down the Twin Towers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post

    And oh by the way, they're steel posts filled with concrete filled with rebar. I don't think your hacksaw blade will hold up.
    That's not so you can't cut through them that's so you can't knock them over.

    Rebar is also steel fyi. And concrete is easier to cut than steel.

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