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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    This is something you'd have to ask the DEA, and they'll tell you that most drugs come through ports of entry. So you'd stop some drugs, but spending the money on better checks at ports of entry would be vastly superior solutions.
    Holy shit, your'e doing it again!! And we've talked about this one before!! You're conflating talking points again.

    Most drug confiscations happen at places where the cops are. That is not indicative of anything.

    This statement right here:
    most drugs come through ports of entry.
    Is absolutely FALSE. Stop fucking saying it. It's not true, and you're just making yourself sound dumb.


    What do you think is wrong?
    You claimed that illegal immigrants commit less murders than native born americans. You can't prove that. There is no data whatsoever to support that conclusion. You're simply taking the original talking point that says ALL immigrants commit less crime than ALL natives, and then you're adding the word "illegal" and "murder" to make an entirely new talking point that doesn't' comport with any facts whatsoever.

    And any evidence that does exist on this subject suggests the opposite conclusion.
  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    Holy shit, your'e doing it again!! And we've talked about this one before!! You're conflating talking points again.

    Most drug confiscations happen at places where the cops are. That is not indicative of anything.

    This statement right here:

    Is absolutely FALSE. Stop fucking saying it. It's not true, and you're just making yourself sound dumb.
    Where are you getting your numbers from? What proof do you have that most drugs are coming over the border at places other than the ports of entry?



    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    You claimed that illegal immigrants commit less murders than native born americans. You can't prove that. There is no data whatsoever to support that conclusion. You're simply taking the original talking point that says ALL immigrants commit less crime than ALL natives, and then you're adding the word "illegal" and "murder" to make an entirely new talking point that doesn't' comport with any facts whatsoever.

    And any evidence that does exist on this subject suggests the opposite conclusion.
    Can we finally and once and for all agree that a claim by someone on Fox News != 'evidence.'
  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Where are you getting your numbers from? What proof do you have that most drugs are coming over the border at places other than the ports of entry?
    Life expectancy in the United States dropped last year as a result of opioid overdoses. I'm not sure of the exact stat but something like 85%+ of the heroin in the US comes from Mexico.

    For me to believe that "most drugs come through ports of entry", it would mean that the gov't knows the sources of ALL drugs, and the routes they take to get to America. And if they knew that....they would intercept the drugs. But they don't intercept the drugs. How do I know? Dead bodies.

    So don't tell me that you KNOW that most of the drugs go right under cop's noses. Just fuck off with that.

    Can we finally and once and for all agree that a claim by someone on Fox News != 'evidence.
    Honestly....just fuck off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    Life expectancy in the United States dropped last year as a result of opioid overdoses. I'm not sure of the exact stat but something like 85%+ of the heroin in the US comes from Mexico.

    For me to believe that "most drugs come through ports of entry", it would mean that the gov't knows the sources of ALL drugs, and the routes they take to get to America. And if they knew that....they would intercept the drugs. But they don't intercept the drugs. How do I know? Dead bodies.

    So don't tell me that you KNOW that most of the drugs go right under cop's noses. Just fuck off with that.
    Just out of curiosity, how much of the drug trade do you think comes over an unprotected land border (I mean by land, not by air)?
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Just out of curiosity, how much of the drug trade do you think comes over an unprotected land border (I mean by land, not by air)?
    Fuck you. That's how much.

    If you have a point to make, make it.
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    Fuck you. That's how much.

    If you have a point to make, make it.
    The point is obvious - if you think a Wall is going to put a serious dent in the drug trade you must think most drugs come in over the land border, and by land.

    And to think that, presumably you must have a reason to think that. That's the next question: If that's what you think, what are you basing that belief on?
  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    The point is obvious - if you think a Wall is going to put a serious dent in the drug trade you must think most drugs come in over the land border, and by land.

    And to think that, presumably you must have a reason to think that. That's the next question: If that's what you think, what are you basing that belief on?
    Make up your mind man. A minute ago you told me that most drugs come through ports of entry. Are ports of entry in the sky??? Are they underwater???

    Should we get Aquaman to guard the border??
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    You claimed that illegal immigrants commit less murders than native born americans. You can't prove that. There is no data whatsoever to support that conclusion. You're simply taking the original talking point that says ALL immigrants commit less crime than ALL natives, and then you're adding the word "illegal" and "murder" to make an entirely new talking point that doesn't' comport with any facts whatsoever.

    And any evidence that does exist on this subject suggests the opposite conclusion.
    Again, you can just google that. You'll have a really rough time finding data that supports your narrative on that one. Texas department of public safety numbers disagree with you. There are many studies on this, they're all pretty much in line.
    https://www.cato.org/publications/im...nt#endnote-003
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    https://www.dea.gov/sites/default/fi...resolution.pdf
    You can't be bothered to type 3 words into google but you decide it's a good idea to call me dumb because your feelings tell you that I'm wrong?
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  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    https://www.dea.gov/sites/default/fi...resolution.pdf
    You can't be bothered to type 3 words into google but you decide it's a good idea to call me dumb because your feelings tell you that I'm wrong?
    Just tell me where it says "most drugs come through ports of entry" without specifying confiscations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    Just tell me where it says "most drugs come through ports of entry" without specifying confiscations.
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