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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    What are you talking about?? What due process would there be? The defense filed a motion....a judge could have ruled on it. Instead, Trump pulled rank and said "just fix it".
    Exactly. Trump judged the case before it went to court.


    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    That's due process. The constitution says that military people take orders from the POTUS.
    The constitution also says POTUS shouldn't interfere with the normal course of justice. Did you hear about that whole Mueller Report thing? That's kinda what a big chunk of it was about.
  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Exactly. Trump judged the case before it went to court.
    It's not like it's a subjective judgement. either the guy has a right to attorney-client privilege or he doesn't. Kinda hard to have due-process when your due-process is being violated.

    This is such a petty complaint with regards to Trump. Truly. The guy is still in prison you know.
  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    It's not like it's a subjective judgement. either the guy has a right to attorney-client privilege or he doesn't. Kinda hard to have due-process when your due-process is being violated.
    But we don't know whether his due process was being violated or not. We only know his lawyer claimed it was. It was Trump who chose to take his lawyer's side over the warden's.


    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    This is such a petty complaint with regards to Trump. Truly. The guy is still in prison you know.
    The original nature of the complaint was that Trump acted out of line to stick up for someone who allegedly killed kids who were POC.

    This is a problem because he's not supposed to get personally involved with the justice system. The fact he keeps doing it doesn't mean that eventually it becomes an okay thing to do.
  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    But we don't know whether his due process was being violated or not. We only know his lawyer claimed it was. It was Trump who chose to take his lawyer's side over the warden's
    SO FUCKING WHAT???? That is Trump's job!!!!! He's allowed to do that. That's completely within his constitutional powers.

    The original nature of the complaint was that Trump acted out of line to stick up for someone who allegedly killed kids who were POC
    And why does any of that mean you're not allowed privileged conversations with your defense attorney?

    This is a problem because he's not supposed to get personally involved with the justice system.
    WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTT?????!!!!!!

    You and Oskar suffer from teh same disease. You both hallucinate new branches of government being sprouted whenever you decide ORANGE MAN BAD

    Just so you are clear....TRUMP RUNS THE JUSTICE SYSTEM. The DOJ is part of the executive branch, and Trump is Chief Executive.

    The fact he keeps doing it doesn't mean that eventually it becomes an okay thing to do.
    You've got it backwards. Just because you and Oskar keep pissing your thongs about it doesn't mean it's wrong
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post

    Just so you are clear....TRUMP RUNS THE JUSTICE SYSTEM. The DOJ is part of the executive branch, and Trump is Chief Executive.
    So wait, he can be a dictator then if he wants to?

    He can tell a military judge 'this guy did good things a while ago, give him a nicer cell' or tell the head of FBI 'don't prosecute this guy'?

    'Cause I'm pretty sure he can't....
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    So wait, he can be a dictator then if he wants to?
    Fuck off

    He can tell a military judge 'this guy did good things a while ago, give him a nicer cell'
    No, he can't tell a judge how to rule. But he can say that to a Navy Captain responsible for running a prison-like barracks facility. (I have to say prison-like now because Oskar gets sand in his vagina when I call it prison).

    or tell the head of FBI 'don't prosecute this guy'?
    Well, he would never say that, because Trump is not a hopeless retard that thinks the FBI is responsible for "prosecution". The AG would be responsible for that, and Trump absolutely can say "don't prosecute this guy".

    'Cause I'm pretty sure he can't...
    Yeah, he can.
  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    Fuck off


    No, he can't tell a judge how to rule. But he can say that to a Navy Captain responsible for running a prison-like barracks facility. (I have to say prison-like now because Oskar gets sand in his vagina when I call it prison).


    Well, he would never say that, because Trump is not a hopeless retard that thinks the FBI is responsible for "prosecution". The AG would be responsible for that, and Trump absolutely can say "don't prosecute this guy".


    Yeah, he can.
    You should talk to Robert Mueller. He seems to have a different idea of how involved the president can be with the justice department. I'm sure he'd benefit from your constitutional wisdom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    The guy is still in prison you know.
    Where do you get that from. It seems like absolutely everything you say is pure fantasy. Do you bother looking anything up or do you have cosmic inspirations?
    The strengh of a hero is defined by the weakness of his villains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    Where do you get that from.
    Facts

    Chief Gallagher is now in a barracks environment, similar to a hotel room. In accordance with the Rules for Court Martial
    Last edited by TheSpoonald; 04-30-2019 at 11:38 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    Facts
    But he's not in prison. So why do you think he's in prison?
    The strengh of a hero is defined by the weakness of his villains.
  11. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    But he's not in prison. So why do you think he's in prison?
    Oh jeeezus. Alright, he's confined in a military barracks, isn't allowed to leave, and has every aspect of his life micromanaged by guards.

    But it's not prison. Fine, you win.
  12. #12
    "My kid's an alcoholic. I might not be able to bomb the liquor store, but I can burn down the bar down the road."
  13. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    "My kid's an alcoholic. I might not be able to bomb the liquor store, but I can burn down the bar down the road."
    My lifeguard analogy was WAY better
  14. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    My lifeguard analogy was WAY better
    Congrats.

    So, why the focus on stopping bad people from bringing drugs into the country (which never works) and not on stopping good people in the country from becoming addicts (which at least sometimes works)?
  15. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    So, why the focus on stopping bad people from bringing drugs into the country (which never works) and not on stopping good people in the country from becoming addicts (which at least sometimes works)?
    Dude...that's exactly what "Make America Great Again" means

    Haven't we been over this?
  16. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    Dude...that's exactly what "Make America Great Again" means

    Haven't we been over this?
    I don't know what you're talking about here. What efforts has Trump made to get people to stop being drug addicts?
  17. #17
    The biggest problem here is that at least some of your politicians are taking an easy line on the drug epidemic by blaming it on outsiders 'drugs coming in through the borders - arrrrgh!' . That's much easier than saying 'what is our society doing wrong when so many people feel the need to dope up - what can we do to fix things here?'

    Making it harder to smuggle drugs won't stop people from smuggling drugs, it will just increase the price of drugs.

    Getting a lot of people to stop taking drugs will not only fix their problem it will fix the smuggling problem.

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