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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    So you don't know where they're coming in, but you think building a Wall on one possible entry point is worthwhile. Ok, that's not so ridiculous I guess.
    No one knows where they are coming in. The only drugs we are sure about are the drugs we find and confiscate. All of the rest of the drugs are more or less a mystery, at least to the public.

    What we do know is that the drugs in the latter group kill people, and the drugs in the former group usually don't.

    We also know that if we're catching thousands of pounds of drugs at ports of entry, then we're probably doing a good job at detecting them. Which means it's unlikely that drugs are moving through ports undetected.

    So the undetected drugs must be coming through some other way. And if it's not ports of entry....then there aren't a lot of options left. It's either over land and a wall would stop it. Or its through underground tunnels, and a wall would stop that too. Or its coming via light aircraft, which would admittedly thwart a wall. However, since the wall is doing everything else, it's possible that we might have more available resources to patrol the skies.
  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post

    We also know that if we're catching drugs at ports of entry, then we're probably doing a good job at detecting them. Which means it's unlikely that drugs are moving through ports undetected.
    Not really a fair judgment though. All you know is you're stopping x number of drugs from getting through poe's. You don't know how many are getting through. For all you know, you could only be catching 5%. I'm not saying that's the number, I'm saying the number could be anywhere between 0 and 100%, and you will never know what it is.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    So the undetected drugs must be coming through some other way. And if it's not ports of entry....then there aren't a lot of options left. It's either over land and a wall would stop it. Or its through underground tunnels, and a wall would stop that too. Or its coming via light aircraft, which would admittedly thwart a wall. However, since the wall is doing everything else, it's possible that we might have more available resources to patrol the skies.
    Again you don't have enough information to know what % of drugs come overland, and what % come in other ways the Wall can't deter. You also forget to account for the fact that blocking one route just diverts the traffic to other routes.

    Basically you can't stop drug trade or even put a serious dent in it as long as the demand is there. Solving the drug epidemic starts from within.
  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    You also forget to account for the fact that blocking one route just diverts the traffic to other routes
    If I didn't know better, I might say you're arguing *for* a wall here
  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    If I didn't know better, I might say you're arguing *for* a wall here
    Not really. I can see why people will think it will help, but people are wrong.
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Not really. I can see why people will think it will help, but people are wrong.
    So what?

    That's a serious question. So what?

    America voted for a wall. Who or what would ever presume to overrule that? And what kind of sick deranged narcissist would do so on the grounds that "those people are wrong".
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    So what?

    That's a serious question. So what?

    America voted for a wall. Who or what would ever presume to overrule that? And what kind of sick deranged narcissist would do so on the grounds that "those people are wrong".
    Last time I checked, Mojo was right. America didn't decide between wall/no wall. They decided between Capt. Retard and the Lizard Queen.
  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    Who or what would ever presume to overrule that? And what kind of sick deranged narcissist would do so on the grounds that "those people are wrong".
    I'll keep that in mind if I'm ever asked to make the final decison on whether or not to build the Wall. Right now, I'm simply talking about whether it's a good idea or not, and whether it will benefit the opiod crisis.

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