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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    he gets put straight in the treatment clinic.
    Do you not know what is meant by "due process"?
  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    Do you not know what is meant by "due process"?
    Lol, I said 'treatment clinic' not 'treatment prison'.
  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Lol, I said 'treatment clinic' not 'treatment prison'.
    Can the patient come and go as he pleases? Is his participation in treatment voluntary?

    If so, how is that different than what we have now?
  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    Can the patient come and go as he pleases? Is his participation in treatment voluntary?

    If so, how is that different than what we have now?
    You're getting him at the best possible time. Nearly dying is about as motivated as anyone will ever be to accept treatment. If instead you send him home to his needles and spoons and shit what is more likely to happen?
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    You're getting him at the best possible time. Nearly dying is about as motivated as anyone will ever be to accept treatment. If instead you send him home to his needles and spoons and shit what is more likely to happen?
    So, it's not voluntary. The patient cant leave of his own free will? and somehow that's not a violation of someone's right to due process and/or their right to unlawful search and seizure?
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    So, it's not voluntary. The patient cant leave of his own free will? and somehow that's not a violation of someone's right to due process and/or their right to unlawful search and seizure?

    Either:

    The patient wakes up in a treatment clinic. He can choose to stay and accept the treatment or he can choose to leave.

    Or,

    The patient wakes up in the ER and gets told 'you're still alive, pay your bill and gtfo'.

    Do you get it now?
  7. #7
    The patient wakes up in the ER and gets told 'you're still alive, pay your bill and gtfo
    That doesn't happen

    What actually happens is....
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    He can choose to stay and accept the treatment or he can choose to leave.
    Who do you think runs the treatment programs??? Who gets rich from that?? You don't think the hospitals have thought up a direct pipeline from ER to rehab already??

    BTW, exactly how effective is rehab?
  8. #8
    And assuming you've grasped that extremely complicated description, and are satisfied no-one is being denied their constitutional right to do as they please, which setup do you think has a greater likelihood of resulting in a patient accepting treatment? Being offered treatment right then and there after having come close to death, or being told to pay his bill and gtfo?

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