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[TheSpoonald]

This shows the number of people apprehended making an unauthorized entry into Hungary from Serbia. Can you guess which day they built the wall?



Hey Monkey....I thought it was really easy to make a ladder? Like you could use sticks and twine right?? Do they not have those things in Serbia?

WALLS WORK

[Poopadoop]

This wall worked at this time in this place.

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[Poopadoop]

Here's some philosophy 101 for you. See if you can make the connection between this fallacy and your argument that 'walls work'.

Hasty Generalization

A Hasty Generalization is a Fallacy of Jumping to Conclusions in which the conclusion is a generalization. See also Biased Statistics.

Example:

I've met two people in Nicaragua so far, and they were both nice to me. So, all people I will meet in Nicaragua will be nice to me.

In any Hasty Generalization the key error is to overestimate the strength of an argument that is based on too small a sample for the implied confidence level or error margin. In this argument about Nicaragua, using the word "all" in the conclusion implies zero error margin. With zero error margin you'd need to sample every single person in Nicaragua, not just two people.

[TheSpoonald]

Here's some philosophy 101 for you. See if you can make the connection between this fallacy and your argument that 'walls work'.

There's more data that says walls work than there is data that shows ladders are useful for breaching them.

Show me where Hungary or Israel are kicking themselves for not thinking that immigrants might use ladders.

Two walls. Both wildly successful.

Is there a wall on a country's border somewhere that is consistently thwarted by ladders? Anywhere??

Sounds like "But Ladders" is the only "Hasty Generalization" in this thread.

[Poopadoop]

There's more data that says walls work than there is data that shows ladders are useful for breaching them.

Show me where Hungary or Israel are kicking themselves for not thinking that immigrants might use ladders.

Two walls. Both wildly successful.

Is there a wall on a country's border somewhere that is consistently thwarted by ladders? Anywhere??

Sounds like "But Ladders" is the only "Hasty Generalization" in this thread.

You've doubled the number of your sample size now from n=1 to n=2. Well done, you're on the right track.

There's plenty of examples of people scaling or breaching walls from history. I'm not going to bother to list them here because it's not productive.

No-one would dispute that wall > no wall in hindering movement. The question is 1) whether it's going to address the problem of illegal immigration in a cost effective way, and 2) whether the wall is permanent and irreversible. Most experts don't think so on 1), and on 2) it's clear there's no such thing as a 'permanent' wall.

Your counter to this seems to be 'even so, election was vote on wall' which is overly simplistic, since the Wall was only one issue on which Capt. Retard ran.

[TheSpoonald]

There's plenty of examples of people scaling or breaching walls from history.

History huh? Not now though? What happened? Did Ladders get un-invented?

1) whether it's going to address the problem of illegal immigration in a cost effective way

Who is asking that question? Are they sincerely asking it? Or are they being politically obstructive on purpose?

Most experts don't think so

^"Hasty Generalization" Do you have a source, or some way to substantiate "most"? And what qualifies someone as an expert on border walls?

2) it's clear there's no such thing as a 'permanent' wall.

That's not clear except if you're going to be a hair splitting cunt about the word "permanent" and insist it means "until the end of time".

Your counter to this seems to be 'even so, election was vote on wall' which is overly simplistic, since the Wall was only one issue on which Capt. Retard ran.

We elect whole candidates. What don't you understand about this?

[Poopadoop]

History huh? Not now though? What happened? Did Ladders get un-invented?

History: the whole series of past events connected with a particular person or thing

Seriously, if you need the meaning of even common words explained to you, then why are you here?

Who is asking that question? Are they sincerely asking it? Or are they being politically obstructive on purpose?

Someone with more common sense than you I suspect. Your argument is to build a $30bn wall but to detect attempts to thwart it using 'sonar or whatever'. Then when someone gets through you send in the cavalry to round them up. The wall buys an hour or so so that the illegals can't get from the wall crossing point to a hidedout outside of sonar range.

This is so prima facie retarded it doesn't even need refutation.

That's not clear except if you're going to be a hair splitting cunt about the word "permanent" and insist it means "until the end of time".

Show me anything built by man that is in the same condition it was 10 years ago with no maintenance.

We elect whole candidates. What don't you understand about this?

So in order to vote for someone, you have to agree with every single one of their positions, is that it?

In that case, why isn't Hillary in jail yet? I seem to remember 'lock her up' being chanted just as often as 'build the wall'.

[TheSpoonald]

So in order to vote for someone, you have to agree with every single one of their positions, is that it?

Not even close to what I said. You can no longer accuse me of ad reducium bananicus .