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    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post
    I know I said I wasn't going to make another serious post, but in all seriousness, I think this could be a fundamental premise that we (and plenty of other people) disagree on: I don't think that people have a right to asylum.
    Ok. You keep talking about your fantasies like they have a chance of happening. Trump couldn't get a foot of wall built in 2 years when he had the house and the senate. He shut down the government for 2 months to get a worse deal than he had before. It's not happening. Thinking there's a way to abolish asylum is fantasyland level thinking and even if it were remotely realistic, it wouldn't address the situation right now.

    Right now you have thousands of kids who the government argues don't need soap and toothbrushes to be safe and sanitary. This is not a matter of money. Pence spelled it out: They're holding these kids hostage for wall money and they'll hold them in conditions that facilitate death until congress pays the randsome. There shouldn't even be a discussion if this was negligence or incompetence. This is clearly deliberate torture of children for political gains. You either think that's ok - most republicans seem to think it is, or you don't. What your core philosophy on immigration is really doesn't factor into it. This is a separate issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    Ok. You keep talking about your fantasies like they have a chance of happening. Trump couldn't get a foot of wall built in 2 years when he had the house and the senate. He shut down the government for 2 months to get a worse deal than he had before. It's not happening. Thinking there's a way to abolish asylum is fantasyland level thinking and even if it were remotely realistic, it wouldn't address the situation right now.

    Right now you have thousands of kids who the government argues don't need soap and toothbrushes to be safe and sanitary. This is not a matter of money. Pence spelled it out: They're holding these kids hostage for wall money and they'll hold them in conditions that facilitate death until congress pays the randsome. There shouldn't even be a discussion if this was negligence or incompetence. This is clearly deliberate torture of children for political gains. You either think that's ok - most republicans seem to think it is, or you don't. What your core philosophy on immigration is really doesn't factor into it. This is a separate issue.
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    I was going to post a video of that festival I was talking about. I didn't even register that it's the biggest, period.
    https://www.28degreescard.com.au/tra...the-globe.html

    I'm a bit disappointed that I can't find a video that properly shows the scale. John McTiernan said about shooting Predator: real jungle doesn't look impressive because you don't see anything, and that 100% applies here. I've been in abject pain for the last three days from running around for 5 hours a day every day. It's this:



    but you can walk for an hour, and then there's a stage twice that size on the other side.

    The video is of the first stage from my house.
    The light in the background is a slightly smaller stage. There are two stages A LOT larger than this one and a couple roughly equal. 13 stages in total over the next 5 kilometers and it's basically shoulder-to-shoulder most of the way.

    I can't find numbers yet. I think it broke 3 million this year. It was an incomprehensible number of people. I don't usually like crowds, but when I do, I like the largest crowds.

    Last edited by oskar; 06-25-2019 at 02:20 PM.
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