Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
I can't wrap my head around how you think not having certain liberties is a violation of the presumption of innocence. There are tons of things you're not free to do. You can't jack off on the bus. Can't shit on the merry-go-round, can't buy and trade uranium. It's not a punishment that you can't do these things legally, it's because of the mess it causes if you let people do it legally. You try to make a nuclear reactor with household items in your backyard... that's going to cost millions to clean up, so you can't do it. Weapons aren't any different.
You're arguing for an insane libertarian wet dream that will never happen, and you seem to be ok with the status quo which is miles away from your utopia (everyone dies in your utopia... spoiler) But you're firmly against any legislation that would make tiny tiny changes to the current gun laws compared to where we are at and where you want things to be at, even if it would mean a lot less deaths and a lot less terror.
There is a quote from twitter which I'll paraphrase: "Americans are brainwashed into thinking they have the greatest thing on earth, and one part of that is the idea that anyone can own a gun. it's not about reason, it's more like a belief in Santa Claus that never got dispellled."