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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    In order for Trump to be impeached, it has to happen before 2020 (he must be the sitting POTUS), and Pence will be sworn in.
    46 can't take office before that.
    I think he meant if there's no impeachment, 2020 election runs its course, a D wins, then Trump gets the book thrown at him, that D #46 won't be pulllng out the pardon paddle.


    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    Ugh. I wish I didn't agree.
    You'll still have thoughts and prayers!

    Seriously, I think all America needs to do to turn away from the abyss is for Trump to lose in 2020. I think most people are probably appalled at his behaviour and don't want America to be run by a criminal enterprise. That said, you guys need to address the underlying problems that led to him becoming popular or there's still going to be issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    I think he meant if there's no impeachment, 2020 election runs its course, a D wins, then Trump gets the book thrown at him, that D #46 won't be pulllng out the pardon paddle.
    I'd guess the odds of Trump finishing his term, then being prosecuted for his actions while POTUS after the fact are very slim.

    If he's going to be nailed for stuff he's doing as President, then it's gonna happen while he's President, or it wont happen
    is my prediction.

    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    You'll still have thoughts and prayers!

    Seriously, I think all America needs to do to turn away from the abyss is for Trump to lose in 2020. I think most people are probably appalled at his behaviour and don't want America to be run by a criminal enterprise. That said, you guys need to address the underlying problems that led to him becoming popular or there's still going to be issues.
    Trump is not the problem, he's a symptom, and even if he's prosecuted and sent to a min security prison for a couple minutes, it's not going to change the hearts and minds of the people that voted to put him in office.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    Trump is not the problem, he's a symptom, and even if he's prosecuted and sent to a min security prison for a couple minutes, it's not going to change the hearts and minds of the people that voted to put him in office.
    I agree.

    So the question is why do/did people support him? Part of that is gullibility and they are buying his bigly snake oil about how he's their saviour, and I think that's the good news because those people can be brought back.

    Another part is some people are jerks and want a surrogate jerk in power. Those people exist in every country.

    The solution is to make a country where fewer people are jerks, so you have to ask what makes someone a jerk? There's probably a number of things, but income equality springs to mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    So the question is why do/did people support him? Part of that is gullibility and they are buying his bigly snake oil about how he's their saviour, and I think that's the good news because those people can be brought back.
    Most of what I was hearing at the time was "stick it to the man," and "politics as usual has screwed us over."

    I'd love it if they see what happens when you put someone who never had a truly patriotic thought in their life in office, but that's not what they're gonna see, and I know it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Another part is some people are jerks and want a surrogate jerk in power. Those people exist in every country.
    Unless they're in the electoral college, they do not represent any appreciable %-age of voters (I hope).

    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    The solution is to make a country where fewer people are jerks, so you have to ask what makes someone a jerk? There's probably a number of things, but income equality springs to mind.
    Gets me right in the feels, man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    I'd guess the odds of Trump finishing his term, then being prosecuted for his actions while POTUS after the fact are very slim.

    If he's going to be nailed for stuff he's doing as President, then it's gonna happen while he's President, or it wont happen
    is my prediction.
    It's an awkward position for a Democrat 46, because a huge part of what's blatantly wrong with Trump is that he attempts to persecute his political rivals. It would be very hard for a Dem46 to convince aggrieved MAGA hatters that that's not what's happening. But actively pardoning isn't an option, and even directing his DOJ to look the other way doesn't seem politically permissible.

    Then there's the whole question of state AG's, who a Dem46 has no hard power over.

    Trump is not the problem, he's a symptom, and even if he's prosecuted and sent to a min security prison for a couple minutes, it's not going to change the hearts and minds of the people that voted to put him in office.
    Yeah, if all goes well over the next year and a half or so, we'll be able to breath a sigh of relief.. but then the real work starts.

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