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    Trump is not on trial the way we usually think of a criminal trial.
    It's not, strictly speaking, a legal event at all, and not even a part of the criminal justice system.
    Despite his previous public statements, he has no right to due process, because he's technically not accused of being a criminal.
    He's accused of violating the Constitution.

    Impeachment is not a prosecution, despite the Republican Senators using language that implies as much. Calling for the House to send the Articles of Impeachment in a "timely manner" reflects an accused criminal's right to face their accusations in a timely manner.
    It's a smoke screen to confuse the court of public opinion.

    There is no appellate process following impeachment. Whatever ruling the Senate makes is final.
    Impeachment is a legislative branch process.
    The Supreme Court has no jurisdiction over impeachment matters, despite the Chief Justice ruling over the Senate impeachment proceedings. Note, the Chief Justice has only an advisory role in this matter. The Chief Justice has no authority in impeachment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    Trump is not on trial the way we usually think of a criminal trial.
    It's not, strictly speaking, a legal event at all, and not even a part of the criminal justice system.
    Despite his previous public statements, he has no right to due process, because he's technically not accused of being a criminal.
    He's accused of violating the Constitution.

    Impeachment is not a prosecution, despite the Republican Senators using language that implies as much. Calling for the House to send the Articles of Impeachment in a "timely manner" reflects an accused criminal's right to face their accusations in a timely manner.
    It's a smoke screen to confuse the court of public opinion.

    There is no appellate process following impeachment. Whatever ruling the Senate makes is final.
    Impeachment is a legislative branch process.
    The Supreme Court has no jurisdiction over impeachment matters, despite the Chief Justice ruling over the Senate impeachment proceedings. Note, the Chief Justice has only an advisory role in this matter. The Chief Justice has no authority in impeachment.
    I don't understand much about the actual process... as does no one as far as I could gather. I struggle to understand in what reality it would be considered good optics to hire Ken fucking Starr and two of the lawyers who represented Epstein to do anything at your impeachment trial. How could this ever be a good thing? I mean, I'll take it, but what the fuck!
    Last edited by oskar; 01-18-2020 at 12:23 PM.
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