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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    IDK what the history is in the UK, but the entire history of the police in the US is in promotion of keeping the ideals of slavery in place while the language has evolved around it.

    You don't even have to look very hard to find the history. If you don't know it, then you're not trying to know it.

    I'm not blaming or shaming any people who are police. I'm saying that even if everyone in the entire police and judicial system as it stands today were a good person, we'd still see widespread oppression of black and poor communities. The laws have literally been created to keep those communities in prisons and to strip away their right to vote by creating laws which criminalize non-violent behaviors as felonies.

    Calling someone a criminal over a law that was passed to specifically criminalize non-violent behavior is a huge problem.
    The US has an obscene number of its own citizens incarcerated, and we have the gall to call ourselves the Land of the Free. It's clearly BS. It's clearly a problem. Blaming the police or the people they persecute is missing the point entirely.

    I think the police started in the UK because there was a lot of crime around. I don't think it was to oppress black people or anything. The country was pretty homogenous then.

    But, I think cops are human too and they're just as prone to racist thoughts as anyone else. Ong wants to use the 'few bad apples' argument about racist cops here, but I think it's just a job that attracts some pretty dodgy characters as well as some very good ones.
    I just think we should suspend judgment on Boris until we have all the facts through an inquiry, police investigation, and parliamentary commission...then we should explode him.
    also,
    I'd like to be called Lord Poopy His Most Gloriously Excellent.
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    But, I think cops are human too and they're just as prone to racist thoughts as anyone else. Ong wants to use the 'few bad apples' argument about racist cops here, but I think it's just a job that attracts some pretty dodgy characters as well as some very good ones.

    I don't disagree with this. It takes a certain kind of person to be a cop. And yes, some of these people will be racist. But it's really difficult to act upon that racism, because it is frowned upon socially and against the law.
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    ongies gonna ong
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    There's something of note here, too. We don't often hear of Muslims being racially profiled when getting pulled over. They are more likely to be racially profiled when it comes to terrorism, but cops aren't generally spending their time looking for terrorists. This problem seems to be exclusive to black people, not all non-white people.

    I should be clearer here. There are generally two types of Muslims... Asians and Africans. The Africans experience more problems than the Asians. Again, this is a social status problem. The Asians tend to be wealthier.
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    ongies gonna ong

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