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 Originally Posted by OngBonga
Most countries don't even have an independent regulator for the police. They are regulated directly by government. Not here.
What's the difference if they don't do anything?
 Originally Posted by OngBonga
If you think that the regulator is not truly independent, that's a different matter. Do you have proof of this? Or is this another "obviously"?
Who pays these "independent" regulators?
 Originally Posted by OngBonga
let's say I do know it. It would be annoying. Would I consider myself a "victim"? Absolutely not.
The question was whether you'd be ok with it, not whether you'd consider yourself a "victim". I mean, you don't really seem to know what a victim is anyways, so there's no point asking about that.
 Originally Posted by OngBonga
Your memory is worse than mine. I also suggested that maybe most stop and searches happen in major cities with a higher than average percentage of non-whites, in areas where crime is higher than average.
And I ignored that because the link I gave was providing statistics from London, not the whole country.
https://www.stop-watch.org/your-area/area/metropolitan
Here, I'll underline the bit of interest for you.
Black people were searched at 11 times the rate of whites, mixed people at just under three times, Asians twice, and Chinese or 'other' people just under one and a half times the rate of whites across the Capital.
 Originally Posted by OngBonga
And drawn a conclusion based on that, and even gone to the trouble of accusing someone who disagrees with you of racism.
I'm just curious why your opinion is so strongly held that you continue to come up with so many nonsensical reasons why the evidence that disputes it is wrong.
Let's refresh our memories on what those were again:
1. Black people mouth off a lot (blaming the "non-victim").
2. They're poor and can't afford to fix a taillight (which, naturally, justifies a body search).
3. Urban vs. rural (with blacks more likely to live in the urban parts of London, apparently).
 Originally Posted by OngBonga
I don't consider my suggestions any more implausible that institutional racism.
I don't consider your suggestions plausible at all, in case you didn't see the above.
 Originally Posted by OngBonga
642 people over a 15 year span is not that alarming, it's 43 a year, which is significantly lower than the number of people who get shot in USA. And how many of these are the result of a drug overdose or natural causes? Again, lacking context.
642 deaths is not the alarming part. 0/642 cases where police were held in any way responsible is the alarming part.
It must be comforting to be a racist cop and know that if a POC dies in your care, your chance of being held in any way responsible for it is ~ 0%
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