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 Originally Posted by OngBonga
Are black people more likely to show bad attitude to cops than white people? Maybe. It's a potential factor.
11x as likely? Really? Who are these people lol.
If anything, they might be less likely to mouth off 'cause they don't want to push any buttons.
 Originally Posted by OngBonga
poverty is certainly a factor. Poor people interact with police more often than wealthy people, on average, certainly on the streets, mainly because of location. Police don't tend to patrol rich neighbourhoods because there's not much crime.
If black people are 11x as likely to live in poverty than whites (which I doubt is anywhere close to the truth), that in itself would be a problem.
 Originally Posted by OngBonga
I was also thinking of people like Black Karen who immediately play the race card. I know first hand that cops don't appreciate you being a dick to them.
You don't know how many times she's been stopped and/or harassed, so it's not really fair to say she "immediately" played the race card.
In any case, I've never seen a video of someone playing the race card and the cops using that as an excuse to search them. Seems a bit counterproductive on their part.
The mouthing off you were doing sounded like you were being a smart ass. That's the kind of mouthing off I would expect to dramatically increase your chance of being searched.
 Originally Posted by OngBonga
Related to poverty. London has very little rural land, and the people who live in these parts are millionaires. But across the UK generally, rural areas don't see much police. My town doesn't have any cops by night, if there's an emergency they'll come from Leomister probably, ten miles away. Or maybe even Shrewsbury or Telford, both 20-odd miles away. There's also a much lower percentage of resident non-whites in rural towns and villages. So urban vs rural is certainly a factor too.
Yeah, don't think your living arrangements are at all relevant to why black people are 11x as likely to get stopped and searched in London. Saying there's more police in London than in the boonies doesn't explain that.
 Originally Posted by OngBonga
That's because your mind is made up. If you approach this from the angle "maybe there's another reason", you might think of things that seem implausible, but they might contribute.
My mind is open, just not to theories that make no sense.
 Originally Posted by OngBonga
Well let's see if this Dalian Atkinson case breaks the mould. Would that satisfy you that we're making progress?
Not exactly. If it's a footballer, that's going to have an influence. If they start convicting them of mistreating common schmoes I'd be more impressed.
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