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    Quote Originally Posted by boost View Post
    Yeah, that's why it's so insidious-- I cant remember the details to find a source, but from what I can remember, people are generally only capable of thinking a few levels deep without mapping things out on paper. Which makes sense, it becomes increasingly hard to keep track of the motivations of someone who is conspiring to create conspiracy theories to safeguard their conspiracies.

    Further, it leads to endless rabbit holes of thought, like "maybe it's western intelligence agencies that have floated the conspiracy theory that the Russians have been fabricating conspiracy theories to give cover to their conspiracies, to give cover to their (western agency's) conspiracies." Pretty much an infinite regress that ends in "nothing is true and everything is possible."
    I was never really on board with the whole Russia thing. There was always some doubt, until that Novichok incident in England. That was so obviously (to me at least) a crock of shit that I could only conclude that the whole Russiaphobia thing was propaganda on our part.

    I'm also in no doubt that Russia are assholes, they've got their agenda too. In fact I kinda lean towards them being allies, and the whole "enemy" thing is to present to the public a strong reason for continued and massive military investment. We don't need nuclear weapons, nobody is ever going to use them. In fact I wouldn't at all be surprised if our nuclear arsenals are massively overstated, with the funding ending up elsewhere. We all know corruption happens, I think it's naive to think it's not happening on a truly massive scale.

    So "conspiracy theory" to me doesn't mean crazy. As for the election, I do think it is a stretch to imagine they can pull off such a massive fraud without anyone being able to prove it. But it's not flat earth nonsense. It's a stretch, but not out of the question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    I was never really on board with the whole Russia thing. There was always some doubt, until that Novichok incident in England. That was so obviously (to me at least) a crock of shit that I could only conclude that the whole Russiaphobia thing was propaganda on our part.

    I'm also in no doubt that Russia are assholes, they've got their agenda too. In fact I kinda lean towards them being allies, and the whole "enemy" thing is to present to the public a strong reason for continued and massive military investment. We don't need nuclear weapons, nobody is ever going to use them. In fact I wouldn't at all be surprised if our nuclear arsenals are massively overstated, with the funding ending up elsewhere. We all know corruption happens, I think it's naive to think it's not happening on a truly massive scale.

    So "conspiracy theory" to me doesn't mean crazy. As for the election, I do think it is a stretch to imagine they can pull off such a massive fraud without anyone being able to prove it. But it's not flat earth nonsense. It's a stretch, but not out of the question.
    Wait, so you were using "conspiracy theory" to mean "unproven and likely not true?"

    Now you've lost me.

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