Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post

The problem here is that I regularly feel cornered, a lone voice in what would otherwise be an echo chamber. So I'm going to occasionally use sloppy language like "you guys" when I don't necessarily intend to mean you as well.
This may be true, but no-one is forcing you to argue with us, especially in the way you do. And you should really not feel like you're doing us a favour by putting up an opposing view, and then when that view is shown to be groundless you stick to it anyways, then try to turn it into a convo about something completely irrelevant to what it started out as. What is the point of that really?