Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
When you bring a weapon to a robbery it doesn't matter whether you were intending to use it or not, it's armed robbery in the eyes of the law. I think those who brought guns, molotov cocktails, and zip tie cuffs into the halls of congress are positively fucked. I know Trump stacked the judiciary with maga fret boys, but this might be a little much even for them.


Five people died including a police officer, the circumstances are not entirely clear, but that's not what happens at your usual peaceful protest.
I'm waiting for information come in, which is slow since they only made 13 arrests initially and are now on a manhunt based on video evidence.
Yup. Just because Trump's goons were an inchoherent rabble who didn't go thru with the worst of their plans doesn't mean they were "peaceful" by any stretch.





Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
It might end up being a lot worse than it looks as well. DC police chief says there was no intelligence that suggested additional security was needed on the 6th, which is a transparent lie. The pentagon limited the deployment of police, national guard, and the use of riot gear on the date. I believe it was the head of the national guard who said in a public statement they repeatedly informed DC they were ready to deploy and were told to stand down until hours after the breach. With a number of Trump officials currently resigning this could turn into a full blown trial on sedicion... but that's just speculation on this point.
One can't help but wonder who gave them that order to stand down and what their motive was. If it was one of these Trump cliquers that basically means they had the whole thing mapped out in advance.

I heard a rumour as well that Trump initially refused to call in the NG, and it was Pence who called them in. That is suspiciously consistent with the whole deliberately letting it happen theory.





Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
The yallqaeda that stormed the capitol is obviously simply the most gullible of Trump's circle and their information is limited to whatever Trump is telling them. The bigger legal challenges will be faced by those who paved the way for them.
You have to wonder why it's so hard for people to connect the dots here. There's the Trump rally where he tells them to go march on the Capitol, attended by thousands of yallqaeda (lol at that name), there's the Rs in the Capitol protesting the state results with no actual chance of it ever succeeding, and then you have the NG being kept on a leash for hours.

At the very least it would seem this was orchestrated to happen so as to cause a big stink and encourage right wing paranoia for 2024 by encouraging doubt in the legitimacy of the election results.