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    Quote Originally Posted by cocco
    It's about the symbolism of occupying the congress building
    I don't really understand why that's an issue. For me, such an occupation makes a bigger statement than anything else I can think of.

    One is run of the mill vandalism, the other is a semi-orchestrated attempt to influence the election process.
    Run-of-the-mill vandalism? No, graffiti is run-of-the-mill vandalism. Looting is a serious crime. And I don't think anyone who entered the Capitol seriously expected to "interfere" with the election process. I doubt anyone thought this would stop Biden getting into office. That wasn't the motivation.

    Voicing your opinion is fine, forcing others to succumb to it is not.
    This doesn't seem to be a logical reply to my comment. I mean, I agree with this, which is why I hate the mostly-left thing of cancelling people due to their opinion.

    However, I asked if rebelling against the govt should be a crime. I'm an emphatic "no".
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    Does anyone remember when Wuf used to spend all his free time reading r_thedonald and Scott Adams, and then would come here and try to tell us Trump was a 3D chess grandmaster? I suspect something similar is going on here with Ong - I'll bet he's exposing himself to a lot of right-wing "alternative facts" on twitter about Trump, Brexit, and the like and because they fit his worldview, he accepts them in lieu of the truths we try to explain to him.
    I just think we should suspend judgment on Boris until we have all the facts through an inquiry, police investigation, and parliamentary commission...then we should explode him.
    also,
    I'd like to be called Lord Poopy His Most Gloriously Excellent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Run-of-the-mill vandalism? No, graffiti is run-of-the-mill vandalism. Looting is a serious crime.
    So... all the looting that took place while those protestors were inside the capitol building... that's a serious crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    And I don't think anyone who entered the Capitol seriously expected to "interfere" with the election process. I doubt anyone thought this would stop Biden getting into office. That wasn't the motivation.
    I mean... it's gotta be said that if this was a real attempt to overthrow the gov't, then it's akin to a 5-year-old playing Batman.
    "I'm gonna fight the crimes and make the bad guys pay!"
    "Sure you are, honey, now go brush your teeth and put your jammies on for bedtime."

    I'm pretty bothered by even normally OK news agencies calling this a "violent insurrection." It wasn't. It just fucking wasn't. This is America - we know how to do violence right. We kinda pride ourselves on it, as fucked up as that is. This was not American violence.

    Sure, a few people had guns, but this is the US fuckin'-A. People gonna have guns. Those guns were holstered, and not being used by any protestors (AFAIK) to threaten anyone. There were reports of bombs, but AFAICT, there were a couple bombs in the city of DC, but nowhere near the protest at the capitol, so meh. Not related.


    It was criminal trespassing and looting, with some misguided childish nonsense about sticking it to the man, but I don't think it's wrong to say those people wanted to interfere with the election process. They did actually interfere. They put one of the steps of the process off for a few hours. Whether or not they expected their actions to change the outcome of the election is kinda beside the point.
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