Thing is about "forces at work" is that it's too widespread, and the actual complaints have not been backed up with any evidence whatsoever to validate their claims. The review process has not been hushed up or covered up at all. Trump's team have been all over the media trying to state how there is massive fraud, and all - ALL - of those claims have been followed up on by many - MANY - people. Judges from all over the country. Governors, Republican and Democrat. News agencies trying to follow up on stories... all of them would have to be "in" on the conspiracy. It's that big. Hundreds if not thousands of people would have to be in on it, from both political parties, including (supposedly) independent judges.

It's just not a fraud.

When we here stories of Russian election fraud, it's like... this entire city is up in arms over the results and practices and have hundreds of eye witnesses corroborating the same story. Then the Russian news agencies are not reporting anything about that town, and while international agencies are all, "Don't do that" Russia is all, "Don't do what? Nothing to see, here." There's no judicial review, and when there is, there's a wealth of reasons to doubt whether that review was independent.


It's just not the same.

I'm all for healthy, scientific skepticism, but at a certain point... you're just ignoring the evidence, not being skeptical of it.