Quote Originally Posted by CoccoBill View Post
Ok then. The "Hang Mike Pence" chanting is obviously not cool. It's hard to know how many people are actually chanting this, because the alarms dominate the sound. I've been at enough football matches to know how loud chanting is and would have a good idea if it's the entire crowd or not, but that alarm is a problem.

The AP guy getting shoved around is the action of a couple of people, and credit where it's due to this report, they actually point out that it's a Trump supporter who stops it getting out of hand.

The guy in a balaclava with and flex cuffs, it's one guy. Who knows if he's actually a Trump supporter or not. The report then goes on to say "they" were equipped to take hostages, after showing one guy with sinister intent.

They then show the clip where the woman got shot. It seems clear from that footage that opening fire was justified.

Next clip I'm guessing there's 30-odd people trying to force their way through.

Ok that's all the footage they show, the rest is just politically biased reporting.

So... clearly there was more violence than I realised. And this isn't the kind of protest I can get behind, not like a simple occupation. If there was actual proof of election fraud and it was being ignored, well then it's a different story, we're talking full scale revolution and all bets are off. That's civil war territory. But lacking that proof, there is no excuse for such actions.

But this was still "mostly peaceful", to steal a phrase the media repeated during the BLM riots. And this still isn't touching the BLM riots. Maybe if this continues over the coming months it will, but one day of unrest, with a single mob of idiots, and no private businesses looted, is incomparable to sustained, nationwide rioting and looting.

But ok I do have to accept I've been playing it down more than I should have done.