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    Quote Originally Posted by CoccoBill View Post
    Because single cases have been found pretty much every election,
    How many "single cases" does it take before it's "widespread"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Banana View Post
    How many "single cases" does it take before it's "widespread"?
    Good question. We're talking about a national election, this time with around 140 million turnout. 1000 cases would be 0.0007%, but that likely wouldn't swing anything in even the most contested states. Probably in the thousands or tens of thousands at least, in multiple states.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoccoBill View Post
    Good question. We're talking about a national election, this time with around 140 million turnout. 1000 cases would be 0.0007%, but that likely wouldn't swing anything in even the most contested states. Probably in the thousands or tens of thousands at least, in multiple states.
    So how many rigged votes can you fit in a suitcase? I put it at about 500. So you'd only need 25 suitcases in GA, 40 in MI, and 160 in PA to rig the election. That of course assumes you know the real outcome in advance so you know exactly how many suitcase-fulls of rigged votes to take to rig each state, but you can always take 200 in each state just to be safe.

    Then there's the slight problem of making sure no-one sees you walking into a polling station with trolleys of suitcases and be suspicious enough to take a picture, or for a R observer to catch you unloading them onto a table, and yeah I think it's definitely plausible enough for Fox News to report as fact.
    I just think we should suspend judgment on Boris until we have all the facts through an inquiry, police investigation, and parliamentary commission...then we should explode him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    So how many rigged votes can you fit in a suitcase? .
    I didn't even read the rest of your post. Just go get the facts man. They have the video tape. They have the vote counting machines. They can match up the times and find out how many votes were in those suitcases. The answer is 18,000

    Trump lost Georgia by just under 12,000 votes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Banana View Post
    I didn't even read the rest of your post. Just go get the facts man. They have the video tape. They have the vote counting machines. They can match up the times and find out how many votes were in those suitcases. The answer is 18,000

    Trump lost Georgia by just under 12,000 votes.
    So ~360 suitcases. Yeah, seems legit.

    Link us the "video tape" there Rudy. Or, link us to the court case that they presented the video in. Othewise, it's just a story you heard on right-wing media that you're expecting us to naively accept as fact.
    I just think we should suspend judgment on Boris until we have all the facts through an inquiry, police investigation, and parliamentary commission...then we should explode him.
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    I'd like to be called Lord Poopy His Most Gloriously Excellent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoccoBill View Post
    Good question. We're talking about a national election, this time with around 140 million turnout. 1000 cases would be 0.0007%, but that likely wouldn't swing anything in even the most contested states. Probably in the thousands or tens of thousands at least, in multiple states.
    Are we talking about a national election? Why?

    Why aren't we talking about a city council election in Davenport, Iowa? Or a Sheriff's race in some desolate desert county in New Mexico?

    The same rules apply to those elections as the national one.

    It's not like you go vote and your ballot is just an index card where you check Trump or Biden. These things are usually 2-3 pages long and most people are asked to vote in anywhere between 5 and 20 elections at a time.

    So why are you isolating the question to a "national election" only?


    You're just about to make my point though. Keep going. Why do they insist on shoe-horning the word "widespread" whenever they say "There is no evidence of widespread voter fraud"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Banana View Post
    Are we talking about a national election? Why?
    Another good question. Apparently someone here had issues with them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Banana View Post
    Why aren't we talking about a city council election in Davenport, Iowa? Or a Sheriff's race in some desolate desert county in New Mexico?

    The same rules apply to those elections as the national one.

    It's not like you go vote and your ballot is just an index card where you check Trump or Biden. These things are usually 2-3 pages long and most people are asked to vote in anywhere between 5 and 20 elections at a time.

    So why are you isolating the question to a "national election" only?


    You're just about to make my point though. Keep going. Why do they insist on shoe-horning the word "widespread" whenever they say "There is no evidence of widespread voter fraud"
    You can talk about whatever you want mate, within the mods' banhammer discretion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoccoBill View Post
    You can talk about whatever you want mate, within mojo's banhammer discretion.
    FYP

    I mean boost literally called me an idiot, and I didn't even consider banning him, or censoring him in any way. As far as I'm concerned, banana can say what the fuck he likes, just like the rest of you guys. I'd obviously ban him if he started posting kiddie porn, or posting obviously libellous shit, there's ways to get me to act. I mean I did ban him once before, but that was after mojo had done so several times and he kept coming back and being a dick, so I took that stress away from mojo. I'll always support mojo when it comes to such matters because I know he's a reasonable guy, he doesn't ban people for fun like jyms did.

    banana isn't being a dick, so I doubt mojo will have an issue with his reappearance. I certainly don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    banana isn't being a dick, so I doubt mojo will have an issue with his reappearance. I certainly don't.
    So far, so good.

    He's on my watch list for prior events, but I believe in personal growth, and I believe in forgiveness of past transgressions when growth has moved someone past the point of making the same mistakes.

    So long as he's attacking ideas and not people, he's a welcome addition to FTR.


    Though, not gonna lie, and he'll probably love this... I think seeing him posting in this forum did trigger a migraine from me this morning, so that sucks. I have been struggling with some insomnia the past couple nights that set me up for it, and the stress of anticipating another shitstorm on FTR sent me over the edge.


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    Boost throwing one "ong's an idiot" out there over many years of participation in this forum is not pinging me.
    Boost has earned a wealth of leeway and benefit-of-the-doubt from me. As has everyone regularly posting on FTR. I'm not hard to win over, really. Just treat other humans with respect and I'll look past the occasional loss of restraint.
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