*** The Official MAGAposting thread ***

[Mr.Banana]

My eyes hurt after reading that.

We're not talking about handed-ness.

Maybe this isn't landing with you because you live in a shithole country that's not America. But here, under the very first amendment, in the very first sentence of the Bill of Rights, citizens are guaranteed freedom of religion. They can believe, and practice whatever religion they want to. And by any legal standard or precedent, Christianity is a religion. And their stance against gay marriage is a legitimately held belief, whether gay people like it or not.

Their right to exercise that belief is an inalienable constitutional right. We dont' bend the rules for wedding cakes.

However there is nothing in the constitution that guarantees your right to be left handed.

[CoccoBill]

How about bending the rules for someone's right to honor kill their daughter or sacrifice a virgin? The constitution says nothing about christianity.

However there is nothing in the constitution that guarantees your right to be left handed.

More and more people seem to disagree, and gravitate towards the left that promises them these things.

[MadMojoMonkey]

But here, under the very first amendment, in the very first sentence of the Bill of Rights, citizens are guaranteed freedom of religion. They can believe, and practice whatever religion they want to. And by any legal standard or precedent, Christianity is a religion. And their stance against gay marriage is a legitimately held belief, whether gay people like it or not.

Their right to exercise that belief is an inalienable constitutional right. We dont' bend the rules for wedding cakes.

However there is nothing in the constitution that guarantees your right to be left handed.

That's not what the first amendment says or grants. Look into it.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

It does not grant any citizens any rights. It is a restriction on the power of the federal government.

In short... that doesn't mean what you think it means.


The issue with wedding cakes (and there are many, many court cases about this one issue) is almost always in small towns, where there is only 1 cake shop, or 2 and both of them are being prejudiced asses.

If the shop is open to the general public, then they cannot discriminate based on nonsense. If it is a private organization, they have far wider leeway in how they choose their clientele.

I can't imagine any laws have been passed or court ruling made that have found a church (a private institution) must perform it's voodoo rituals on anyone who passes by and wants one.
Wanting gay marriage to be performed and recognized by the state is one thing. Wanting it to be recognized by the church is another thing.
I don't know all the facts, but I hope that the courts are not trying to tell churches what to do.

[Mr.Banana]

That's not what the first amendment says or grants. Look into it.

It does not grant any citizens any rights. It is a restriction on the power of the federal government.

oh stop it. "Freedom of religion" and "gov can't prohibit 'free exercise' of religion" is not a hair I'm about to split with you.

The issue with wedding cakes (and there are many, many court cases about this one issue) is almost always in small towns, where there is only 1 cake shop, or 2 and both of them are being prejudiced asses.

Dude...wal-mart sells wedding cakes. Name one place where the spiteful homophobe is the only game in town.

If the shop is open to the general public, then they cannot discriminate based on nonsense. If it is a private organization, they have far wider leeway in how they choose their clientele.

I don't know what you mean here. But it's probably wrong. If you call up a plumbing supply company, who may not have a public storefront, they can't deny you a water heater for being mormon.

I can't imagine any laws have been passed or court ruling made that have found a church (a private institution) must perform it's voodoo rituals on anyone who passes by and wants one.

I recall hearing about some cases involving actual churches. But usually it's a case where someone rents out part of their mansion, or their historic barn, or something like that. In other words, it's their home, and they'd rather not entertain an event that is an affront to their religious beliefs. That seems totally reasonable to me.

I don't know all the facts, but I hope that the courts are not trying to tell churches what to do.

They've arrested a number of priests for violating lockdowns. Not really part of the gay issue. But if you think the gov't isn't trying to get its tentacles in churches, you're wrong.

[Poopadoop]

They've arrested a number of priests for violating lockdowns. But if you think the gov't isn't trying to get its tentacles in churches, you're wrong.

lol gold.

[Mr.Banana]

lol gold.

Why?

[Poopadoop]

Why?

Never mind. Carry on.

[Mr.Banana]

Never mind. Carry on.

Alright man. But I'm not sure what I said that you found so stunning.

All I did was say what happened.

I'm in a country that proclaims to be a democracy, and guarantees both freedom of religion, and freedom of assembly. Yet at the same time tiny-tyrants in governor's offices across the country have decreed, with the stroke of a pen, that church can't happen anymore.....cuz covid.

You don't see a problem with that?