*** The Official MAGAposting thread ***

[CoccoBill]

Would you be within your rights to refuse that portrait commission? How is that different than the baker refusing to make a gay wedding cake?

Sure, I'm a private business, I can do whatever I want within law. There's (to my knowledge) nothing in the law there that makes it illegal to refuse making offensive paintings.

The difference is that in the wedding cake scenario the business is refusing service based on who or what the customers are, and in your scenario based on what the customer is asking.

[Mr.Banana]

Sure, I'm a private business, I can do whatever I want within law. There's (to my knowledge) nothing in the law there that makes it illegal to refuse making offensive paintings.

The difference is that in the wedding cake scenario the business is refusing service based on who or what the customers are, and in your scenario based on what the customer is asking.

No. there's no difference. YOU seem to think that YOU get to decide what is and isn't offensive.

You're saying its ok to refuse making "offensive paintings". But not ok to refuse to make "offensive cakes".

To make that claim, you have to arbitrarily decide, yourself, along your chosen ideological lines, that a gay wedding isn't offensive, but humiliating muhammed is offensive.

That's a matter of ideological opinion that you want to spin into law. That's exactly the kind of thing the constitution was meant to protect against.

[CoccoBill]

No. there's no difference. YOU seem to think that YOU get to decide what is and isn't offensive.

You're saying its ok to refuse making "offensive paintings". But not ok to refuse to make "offensive cakes".

To make that claim, you have to arbitrarily decide, yourself, along your chosen ideological lines, that a gay wedding isn't offensive, but humiliating muhammed is offensive.

That's a matter of ideological opinion that you want to spin into law. That's exactly the kind of thing the constitution was meant to protect against.

Cool story bro. Glad Mojo already replied so I don't have to.

[Mr.Banana]

Cool story bro. Glad Mojo already replied so I don't have to.

Lol, he's made the exact same mistake.

You don't get to decide for someone else what they find offensive or morally objectionable.

[CoccoBill]

Lol, he's made the exact same mistake.

You don't get to decide for someone else what they find offensive or morally objectionable.

No, the mistake was taking you seriously.

[Mr.Banana]

No, the mistake was taking you seriously.

"shut up" he explained

[Mr.Banana]

Why can't a Christian baker decide for himself what offends him?

A painter can decide that a certain scene is offensive, and refuse to paint it. But a baker can't decide that gay marriage offends him, and refuse to bake the cake?

Explain that please?

[Mr.Banana]

I had a friend go into a tattoo parlor once. She wanted birds all over her arm from her elbow to her wrist. (gross)

Thankfully, the tattoo artist refused. He said he "doesn't draw dead birds". His argument was that if you put birds on your forearm, and your arms are usually at your sides, it will always look like the birds are flying down.

He said he *would* make a tattoo like that for someone who was the lead singer of a band. If you're going to be photographed holding a microphone often, then that tattoo might be alright.

This is a business, open to the public, determining who can and can't have certain tattoos based on their occupation.

Are you outraged?

[Mr.Banana]

It's a little different with the venues.

If what you offer is a function room and catering facilities.....then you don't have to compromise your morals to offer that to gay people. You're just renting a room. You don't have to do anything different for gay people than you do for straight people. You don't have to do anything contrary to your faith. Christians are allowed to rent rooms to gay people.

But when it's in people's houses, or in churches......that's when I start to think "these fuckers just want to bully people"