*** The Official MAGAposting thread ***

[Mr.Banana]

1 - 7: I don't care, because none of that is relevant to what I'm talking about.

Yes it is.

You are not allowed to pick and choose who has what rights in the public space, and if you set up a storefront in a public space, then you are not allowed to pick and choose who your customers are.

Actually, in a lot of cases, you can. It depends on what you're doing. You can't be compelled to do something that interferes with your inalienable rights. That's what inalienable means. Selling a cheesesteak to a gay person doesn't interfere with your right to the free expression of religion. So if you own a cheesesteak stand, you can't discriminate among your customers on the basis of sexuality. But if you're creating a custom wedding cake, then you're creating art, that's an act of speech, and your speech cannot be compelled or controlled by anyone. I'd say you'd have an easy time saying photographers are artists, so they don't have to do gay weddings if they don't want to. Officiants...the person actually speaking the ceremony....surely that person can exercise freedom of speech? What about journalists? The first amendment guarantees freedom of the press. Can a christian newspaper decline to publish a gay wedding announcement? I'd say yes.

I understand it's a fine line, but you've been acting like there is no line. And there definitely is. You can't be forced to do something that interferes with your inalienable rights. You're lumping everything in under the umbrella of "It's wrong to refuse to sell stuff to gays". It's a little more complicated than that.

If you want that right, then there are business models that allow you to have ultimate scrutiny in your customers.

Are there really business models that allow you to discriminate on the basis of sexuality?

I said (paraphrasing) IF you cite the Bible as your reason to gay-bash AND IF you don't also divorce-bash, THEN I can't take you seriously.

Who exactly is this sentence directed at? Which Christian baker is being stubborn about cakes but is cavalier about divorce? Who are you talking about?

then OK... just link me to a government site with the law you want me to understand.

It's the first amendment of the constitution, you quoted it a few posts back. There is no other "law". Any laws differing from that first amendment have been struck down by the SCOTUS, which is why I brought it up. So now you know what the law is. It says the government can't make you do things against your religion.

You see?