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    Re. walls of text
    I get it and I might do the same, but the problem is that there is a huge, huge amount of information pointing at very real conspiracies that have been perpetuated for decades designed to persecute American citizens by American politicians and businesses.

    That's a BIG claim, and it requires big proof.

    My opinion on the matter wasn't easily swayed. There are counter arguments and counter-counter arguments ad nauseum in all of this. A lot of information is not verifiable, single witness accounts or sound like numerology at how far they stretch.

    So there's a lot to say, and it's a big deal to understand it.

    The entire world joined in a single-voiced protest about a year ago. That's never happened before in human history.
    It's not something anyone should forget, or shrug off, IMO.

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    Obama said at least a couple times that he was sensitive to avoid race issues throughout the entirety of his presidency because as the first black president, he didn't want it to be 100 years until there was a next black president. He said that he felt his place in history was to demonstrate that a black president was just a president, not a black anything. I think it was a mistake on his part, but I respect his political acumen, and it is what it is.

    Also note that the most a president can do to change laws is say he wants a law and to sign or not sign what Congress gives him.
    POTUS can make presidential orders - which are basically laws unless an actual law says otherwise. Or until a later POTUS repeals it.


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    Why doesn't Biden do something about it?

    The Democratic party was getting their asses kicked in just about all levels of elections about 30 years ago. The Republicans candidates just had to promise to be "tough on crime" and that seemed to be all it took to get votes. So they got in office and made all kinds of stricter punishments on laws and criminalized non-violent behaviors. Then Clinton came along and realized he needed to change the game if he was going to win - enter his Rock the Vote campaign and a stance to be tough on crime.

    Yada, yada, yada. All this time has passed, and "tough on crime" has been getting people elected for decades and now our prisons are overflowing and run by private companies and whether or not a police officer arrests you is a matter of whether or not they choose to enforce any of the uncountably many laws on the books.

    I mean... that can't be the whole story, but it's a prominent thread of the past 30 years of US politics.
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  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    Re. walls of text
    I get it and I might do the same, but the problem is that there is a huge, huge amount of information pointing at very real conspiracies that have been perpetuated for decades designed to persecute American citizens by American politicians and businesses.

    That's a BIG claim, and it requires big proof.
    I think this is in response to Ong, but just to be clear, I skipped passed a bunch of posts and just now noticed that Ong also was complaining about walls of text. I wasn't saying it as a way to discredit, I just really was tired of reading the multi paragraph exchanges on both sides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boost View Post
    I wasn't saying it as a way to discredit, I just really was tired of reading the multi paragraph exchanges on both sides.
    Yeah it's impossible to follow that. I do it myself too, but even when I'm one of the interlocutors, it can be pretty exhausting. As a spectator, I just change the channel.
    I just think we should suspend judgment on Boris until we have all the facts through an inquiry, police investigation, and parliamentary commission...then we should explode him.
    also,
    I'd like to be called Lord Poopy His Most Gloriously Excellent.

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