Quote Originally Posted by mojo
A person who drives an SUV can still rail at the giant corporations whose pollution absolutely dwarfs anything coming from a consumer vehicle. That's not hypocritical, IMO. Not in a toxic way, at least.
Agreed. But don't target the general public, because in doing so, you're sending the message that the public are the ones to blame, and the ones that need to change their habits. If that's the message you're sending, then absolutely you need to set an example. If you're outright demanding the public to stop using things that consume needless amounts of oil, then don't drive a fucking SUV, use the cleanest form of transport that you can reasonably use.

You just basically said all protest is immoral...
No, that's just how you're choosing to interpret my tone. Scroll back through the convo and you'll see I don't really have a problem with them protesting at sports events. The hate for them comes from their time gluing themselves to roads. And I made the point that I support these protesters when it comes to legal consequences they're facing. They don't deserve long jail sentences, not the first time they get hauled before a court for taking protest too far.

To be clear, protest is most definitely not immoral. And I understand that protest sometimes need to be in-your-face. But anyone with a brain understands that stopping traffic on one of the busiest motorways in the world is going to result in a small number of people in need of emergency treatment being put at serious risk. If you're going to take that kind of action as an act of protest, then the message you send absolutely needs to be a message you actually believe in.

And there's only so much choice we have as consumers when it comes to what we can buy.
This just raises the question... why are the protesters targeting the public? They are saying consumer habits need to change, if that's their message then their consumer habits should be setting the example. That means not having a brand new Range Rover on the drive of your rural "farm" that isn't actually a working farm and is just a nice place to live in the countryside for a family and their horses. That's the kind of person we're dealing with here. These fuckers live the life we all dream of, and they have the audacity to annoy and put at risk the general public to demand the public do things they aren't willing to do themselves.