Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
These live debates are stupid. I'm not sure why anyone cares about a candidate's ability to debate. Is that the main job of a politician? To engage in arguments with rivals on TV for the benefit of the salivating electorate? Personally, this is the kind of politics I hate. Shit slinging politics.
It's meant to be an opportunity for the candidates explain their different platforms and policies and make their case, issue by issue as to why they're the better candidate.
It's meant to be a chance for the voters to see what they are like when under some minimal pressure and scrutiny by the other candidate to keep them honest.
It's meant to be an opportunity for them to differentiate themselves as leaders.

Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
Maybe Biden is getting too old to get worked up in a debate. Maybe his meds make him too chill for it. In the hypothetical situation where that is literally the only "flaw" he has, is it a problem? Of course it's not his only flaw, but the inability or unwillingness to engage in effective live debate is not something I really consider a flaw in a politician, but that's because I don't give a toss what they say. Politics for me is not a televised live debate. That's entertainment, and not even good entertainment. Politics is policy and action.
The fact that he's not meeting my expectations is my concern.
The reason he's not meeting my expectations is his business, not mine.

I'm not concerned about Biden's ability to debate.

I'm concerned that in the debate, what I saw was an inability to express coherent thoughts or sentences. I'm concerned that literally anyone with a brain who is invested in the US political scene should be able to wipe the floor against a man convicted of 34 felony charges who can't seem to open his mouth without repeating lies he's told before.

That's a fucking LOW bar, man.

I want to know there is someone in this who can win against a man who has promised to be a dictator, "but only on day 1" when he's elected.
I want to know there is someone in this who can win against a man with 34 felony charges and a new extra immunity to commit all the crimes he can imagine for the next 4 years.
I want to know there is someone in this who can win against a man who has argued it should be legal for the President to order military assets to kill his political rivals.

If Biden can prove that's him, like his supporters say it's him, then let him prove it. Let him stand on the stage at the DNC and make his case, then let another dozen people make theirs. Next day, take the top 2 - 4 from there and do it again. Final day, hold a debate between them and then have the vote for the nominee.

If it's still Biden, then awesome. I should've listened to you all along. If not, well. Now we all agree we have a better chance to win than before, right? So it's win win for everyone.