*** Official Politics Shitposting Thread ***

[BananaStand]

a lot of people for some reason think that's fucked up.

It sounds really fucked up when you only tell 10% of the story like that

[OngBonga]

Ong isn't right wing. That's your libtard reflexes again telling you anyone to the right of Lenin is automatically a nazi.

Correct, well done.

Ong wants Brexit, doesn't want immigrants, especially muslims, likes Trump. He's right-wing. The only things missing are the homophobia, supporting the NRA, and going to church, and well, this is Britain. Right-wing here is not the same as right-wing there.

I also like having a taxpayer funded healthcare system that ensures everyone gets the care they need. I also like free education, at least in areas where there is a shortage of skilled workers in the workforce. I also promote government control of railways, energy, water and roads.

I'm actually pro-immigration, if only you listened to what I say. If an immigrant comes here to integrate, and by that I mean learn the language, work and abide by our laws, then welcome to Britain. I don't like Islam because it is oppressive, it goes against my core values as a human being. I consider women and homosexuals equal. Islam does not. Islam does not belong in my civilised country.

Brexit is not a right vs left issue. That's left-wing noise designed to paint Brexiteers as racist.

[Poopadoop]

...

Well fine, you're whatever you want to call yourself.

Brexit is not a right vs left issue.

Are you saying Brexit isn't much more popular with the right than with the left? I'd be surprised if that were true.

[OngBonga]

Are you saying Brexit isn't much more popular with the right than with the left? I'd be surprised if that were true.

Much? I don't know about that. But those who insist that Brexit was all about immigration, that's the leftists who wanted to stay. I voted to leave, and immigration was not even close to my main priority. Sovereignty was. That's not economic ideology, that's just a belief that we are capable of running our own affairs, nd bloody well should.

[BananaStand]

What argument?

Tarriffs have been part of Trump's plan for 30 years. Is that in dispute?

He won an election, and therefore has the mandate to implement his chosen policy. Is that in dispute?

GDP is up. By alot. Is that in dispute?

What exactly would you like to talk about?

[BananaStand]

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/12/us/pu...ter-dump-weir/

^ What the fresh hell??? And we're saying the hurricane killed 3000 people??

[OngBonga]

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/12/us/pu...ter-dump-weir/

^ What the fresh hell??? And we're saying the hurricane killed 3000 people??

Well this casts a different light on matters.

[BananaStand]

Well this casts a different light on matters.

Indeed.

I mean, Poop, Oskar, and Jack all have me to learn from, yet they remain stupid. There's only so much help you can give a shithole dwelling moron.

[Poopadoop]

Not at all.

He borrowed a bunch of money and as a result the country is rich.

I did the same thing myself just today. I went to the bank, borrowed 10k and now my bank account has 10k more in it than yesterday. I'm rich!

[Poopadoop]

Oh and I also sold 25k worth of old stereo equipment i had lying around to a guy in Germany, because I heard they were gonna add a 20% tarriff to it tomorrow so he wouldn't buy it. So i'm really 35k up. Also, it's more than that because of inflation and so Harry Truman would have made a lot less.

[BananaStand]

Not at all.

He borrowed a bunch of money and as a result the country is rich.

I did the same thing myself just today. I went to the bank, borrowed 10k and now my bank account has 10k more in it than yesterday. I'm rich!

Shouldn't be a problem if you're making 4.8% on that. By the end of the year you'll have 10,480.

Then you can pay the 10K back and still have 480

Or you could not borrow 10K, have $0 all the time, and complain about it.

[Poopadoop]

Shouldn't be a problem if you're making 4.8% on that. By the end of the year you'll have 10,480.

Then you can pay the 10K back and still have 480

Or you could not borrow 10K, have $0 all the time, and complain about it.

Ya but because I'm such an idiot, I'm only making money on it for three months, and then after that I'll be losing money on the deal. But it sure was a good idea at the time.

[BananaStand]

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/13/polit...oll/index.html

This is getting kinda petty now.

Earlier this month, the island's governor formally raised the death toll from Hurricane Maria to an estimated 2,975 from 64 following a study conducted by researchers at The George Washington University. CNN's own reporting reflects similar numbers. The university study accounted for Puerto Ricans who succumbed to the stifling heat and other aftereffects of the storm and had not been previously counted in official figures. Much of the US territory was without power for weeks.

So 64 people died from the hurricane. Then this shithole island couldn't clean it up fast enough, so 2,911 more people died.

And somehow Trump is making false claims when he says "3000 people didn't die in a hurricane?"

[OngBonga]

That would be fair enough if that "shithole island" wasn't part of USA. Why couldn't they clean up fast enough? I'm afraid the buck stops with the president of their country. Who is that?

[BananaStand]

By the way Bill....this is your source....

An investigation by The New York Times, reported on September 6, 2014, found the Brookings Institution to be among more than a dozen Washington research groups to have received payments from foreign governments while encouraging U.S. officials to encourage support for policies aligned with those foreign governments' agenda

[BananaStand]

Not your best. 3 out of 10

[Poopadoop]

I got nothing so I'll go with insults

fyp

[BananaStand]

I got nothing? What could I possibly have as a response to sentences and sentiments that you imagined?

[Poopadoop]

I got nothing? What could I possibly have as a response to sentences and sentiments that you imagined?

You got no facts. The fact you didn't start out with any is on you, not me.

[BananaStand]

You got no facts. The fact you didn't start out with any is on you, not me.

Trump wins election; Economic certainty improves. Stock market goes up.

These are all facts.

[Poopadoop]

Trump wins election; Economic certainty improves. Stock market goes up.

These are all facts.

yes of course, so is 45% growth in the economy on the banana wealth index.

[BananaStand]

yes of course, so is 45% growth in the economy on the banana wealth index.

not what I said.

45% is the increase in annual growth rate.

[oskar]

Poop, you're not going to fix Banana's daddy issues. He's arguing that Trump retroactively changed the numbers from the previous fiscal year the day he took office. Does this require a response? Just think to yourself quietly "what a fucking retard" and move on. All he wants is attention. Don't give it to him.

[BananaStand]

He's arguing that Trump retroactively changed the numbers from the previous fiscal year the day he took office.

I see the IQ threshold for literacy is somewhere above 117. Very interesting.

[Poopadoop]

What Daddy issues? He's a perfectly well-adjusted individual.

AARRRARRARARHRAHGHGGHGHGHG!!!!!

[Poopadoop]

He's arguing that Trump retroactively changed the numbers from the previous fiscal year the day he took office.

To be fair, he's arguing that Trump is here to drain the swamp by making rich people richer, poor people poorer, and keeping brown people out of the country. So far, he's right.

[BananaStand]

To be fair, he's arguing that Trump is here to drain the swamp by making rich people richer, poor people poorer, and keeping brown people out of the country. So far, he's right.

You forgot about re-segregating schools, and extraditing all the Jews to Germany....just in case they still want 'em.

[Poopadoop]

You forgot about re-segregating schools, and extraditing all the Jews to Germany....just in case they still want 'em.

Well,no. I didn't say that. But you go ahead and fill in the blanks as you see fit.

[MadMojoMonkey]

Poop, you're not going to fix Banana's daddy issues. [...] Just think to yourself quietly "what a fucking retard" and move on. All he wants is attention. Don't give it to him.

I 2nd the motion.

I tried suggesting this months ago and it didn't gain any traction, but I still think it's the best move.
I've tried engaging him on various topics, but it's to no avail. He can't follow a train of thought unless it originates in his balls.

[BananaStand]

I tried suggesting this months ago and it didn't gain any traction,

Because no one else is as much of a cuck pussy as you are.

How'd it go that day you pulled out the banhammer? Was there suddenly an outpouring of respectful, peaceful, productive discussion? Or was it tumbleweeds around here?

[MadMojoMonkey]

Because no one else is as much of a cuck pussy as you are.

Let's see if 2 days makes it clear that I'm not playing any games with you.



Next time it's a full week.

[Poopadoop]

Ahahahahahahahahahaha.

Great graphic.

[OngBonga]

Let's see if 2 days makes it clear that I'm not playing any games with you.
Next time it's a full week.

I'm going to give myself a 2 day ban for saying fucknugget and faggot.

[BananaStand]

I mean, if we're really gonna go down this road....sure I got issues....but my parents are ok people.

[OngBonga]

Can you avatrless fucknuggets please get avatars?

[Poopadoop]

Can you avatrless fucknuggets please get avatars?

Does this keep you up at night?

Is it in the T&C? Or are you just upset that your little friend is gone for two whole days?

[OngBonga]

Does this keep you up at night?

Is it in the T&C? Or are you just upset that your little friend is gone for two whole days?

I didn't notice when I posted that. And I'd be upset if you got a 2 day ban, too.I don't like overmodding in any situation, regarless of who it is. Plus he's not my friend, he's just less annoying politically than you are. I chose my words carefully there...

[OngBonga]

That post contained awful grammar, I hope no one read it before I ninja'd it.

[MadMojoMonkey]

Can you avatrless fucknuggets please get avatars?

I 2nd this, too.

What's wrong with you people? Even Savy has an avatar, and Savy hates everything.

[Poopadoop]

I 2nd this, too.

What's wrong with you people? Even Savy has an avatar, and Savy hates everything.

Really?

I'm just lazy there's nothing anarchic about it. If you really both want me to find an avatar I'll spend the 5 minutes, but seems a bit irrelevant to me.

Maybe we can open it up to friendly discussion. What should my avatar be?

[MadMojoMonkey]

Really?

I'm just lazy there's nothing anarchic about it. If you really both want me to find an avatar I'll spend the 5 minutes, but seems a bit irrelevant to me.

Maybe we can open it up to friendly discussion. What should my avatar be?

I don't really care that much, but all the cool kids are doing it.
It does help to identify whom has said what a bit quicker, but it's not a big deal.

[Poopadoop]

I don't really care that much, but all the cool kids are doing it.
It does help to identify whom has said what a bit quicker, but it's not a big deal.

lol i'm not using that, it implies I spend most of my time trying to take a shit.

And i eat yoghurt every day just so I don't.

[MadMojoMonkey]

I'm pretty sure ongie will argue against any permanent bans, and if so, I'd defer to the fact that he and I are the only 2 active mods and if there's no majority, then I wouldn't pull any kind of shenanigans by making a unilateral action.

So maybe nanners can appeal to ongie to avoid any permanent ban, but even ongie agrees that there's a line to be crossed. He and I just disagree sometimes on exactly where that line is.

[OngBonga]

I'm pretty sure ongie will argue against any permanent bans, and if so, I'd defer to the fact that he and I are the only 2 active mods and if there's no majority, then I wouldn't pull any kind of shenanigans by making a unilateral action.

So maybe nanners can appeal to ongie to avoid any permanent ban, but even ongie agrees that there's a line to be crossed. He and I just disagree sometimes on exactly where that line is.

Yeah, my line is threats of violence. Saying swear words to people, couldn't give a fuck. That said, I respect the fact that you're a mod and you can do as you please. Push comes to shove, I'll back you up, even if I think you're in the wrong.

[MadMojoMonkey]

Push comes to shove, I'll back you up, even if I think you're in the wrong.

I know.

Respect is important.

You've got mine.

[Poopadoop]

Personally I think you should take a deciding democratic vote among the active members to decide who wants what. That'd be a big shot in the arm for FTR as a forum with integrity.

[OngBonga]

It's ok if one person doesn't have an avatar, but when more than one person doesn't, a second glance is usually required to confirm the author.

[Poopadoop]

It's ok if one person doesn't have an avatar, but when more than one person doesn't, a second glance is usually required to confirm the author.

I get it. I'll try find something.

[OngBonga]

So what the fuck are you going to argue about now for the next two days? Am I going to have to be here more?

[Poopadoop]

Ok I already can't figure out how to do it.

Until it really becomes an issue fudge you.

also,ARARHRARAHRRGGGHGHG!!!!!

[MadMojoMonkey]

Ok I already can't figure out how to do it.

Until it really becomes an issue fudge you.

also,ARARHRARAHRRGGGHGHG!!!!!

Game on.

[OngBonga]

Way I see it, Osaka has more reason to complain. Is she complaining? I really don't know, but I'll wager she's not, because she's Japanese and them guys really don't get themselves worked up about these things.

[Poopadoop]

she's Japanese and them guys really don't get themselves worked up about these things.

omfg

[OngBonga]

omfg

They don't. Remember Karlie Kloss? A white American model, wearing traditional Japanese clothing and makeup? Ring any bells? America lost its shit, crying "cultural appropriation" and "omfg". Of course, if you actually went to the streets of Tokyo and asked them what they think, you'll get thinks like "she's pretty", and "I'm happy that Americans know Japanese culture".

Japan can teach us a lot when it comes to racism. They don't have a victim mentality, they seem to have the attititude that if someone is racist, well that's the racist's problem, not theirs.

Try not to spit out your tea.

[Jack Sawyer]

Way I see it, Osaka has more reason to complain. Is she complaining? I really don't know, but I'll wager she's not, because she's Japanese and them guys really don't get themselves worked up about these things.

That's because you do not know her story.

In racially homogeneous Japan, Osaka is considered hāfu, which is Japanese for biracial. Her Japanese grandfather was furious when he found out that her mother was romantically involved with a black man. As a result of the interracial relationship, her mother did not have contact with her family for over ten years. In a 2016 interview, Osaka said: "When I go to Japan, people are confused. From my name, they don’t expect to see a black girl.

Does that sound like the Japanese do not get themselves worked up over these things?

I heard "Osaka" and when I saw her I was WTF as well.

And yes, she has every reason to complain. She was whitewashed in that cartoon. This is straight out of the Jim Crow era.

[Jack Sawyer]

Asking a question isn't wrong, but asking a stupid question based on some definition you just made up is not "seeking truth" as you claim.

Why is it a stupid question.

WHY is it a stupid question.

Why is it a stupid question????

I wasn't following the entire discussion because, damn, you guys have been bitching a lot lately

But using logic I can assume that because the question is "based on some definition you just made up" is what makes it "stupid"

[OngBonga]

It was racist. The racism is subtle, yet quite clearly there. Dogwhistle-ish, if you may.

Would it be racist if she was depicted as a white male?

[OngBonga]

I'm curious poop. What is it about my last post that is worthy of "omfg"?

Let me say something. The Brazillians have won the most World Cups. Those guys are good at football.

Have I just said something racist? I mean, that's an insult to every Brazillian who isn't good at football, right? I just stereotyped all of Brazil as being good at football. Jesus fucking Christ, I should be ashamed of myself.

You're so afraid of being racist, it's so deeply ingrained into you, that you scream in hysteria whenever someone says anything that comes close to your distorted idea of what racism is.

Reassess your idea of racism, for your own sake.

[Poopadoop]

I'm curious poop. What is it about my last post that is worthy of "omfg"?

It's the implication that black people suck because they're offended by racism.

[OngBonga]

It's the implication that black people suck because they're offended by racism.

You made that impilication.

WHITE people suck because they're offended by "racism".

Well, anyone sucks who is offended by things that aren't actually racist.

[Jack Sawyer]

You made that impilication.

WHITE people suck because they're offended by "racism".

Well, anyone sucks who is offended by things that aren't actually racist.

That particular cartoon was racist though. Note the whitewashing of Osaka

I mean, her name is Osaka. even if you may not know how she looks like, why did you make her white and blonde? And why does Serena have to look like fucking Donkey Kong?

That's a why it's a racist dogwhistle. The black chick looks like donkey kong being so ultra exaggerated, and the white blond chick and white umpire have only slightly exaggerated features while looking completely calm. Blacks behave like monkeys, whites can have civilized interaction. Don't get it yet?

Make Serena less like Donkey Kong and give Osaka the skin color she has in real life. Black. Then you can not claim any hint of racism in there.

[Jack Sawyer]

This is what I said

That particular cartoon was racist though. Note the whitewashing of Osaka

I mean, her name is Osaka. even if you may not know how she looks like, why did you make her white and blonde? And why does Serena have to look like fucking Donkey Kong?

That's a why it's a racist dogwhistle. The black chick looks like donkey kong being so ultra exaggerated, and the white blond chick and white umpire have only slightly exaggerated features while looking completely calm. Blacks behave like monkeys, whites can have civilized interaction. Don't get it yet?

Make Serena less like Donkey Kong and give Osaka the skin color she has in real life. Black. Then you can not claim any hint of racism in there.

Notice I'm referring to the cartoon.

In response to this line ...

And why does Serena have to look like fucking Donkey Kong?

... you then claim

Because Serena looks like fucking Donkey Kong.

Notice you are referring to Serena herself. Do you spot the difference?

That's actually racist, ong.

[Poopadoop]

Ya, all those people who respond negatively to racist depictions of themselves are way out of line.

Also, that example you gave had nothing to do with racism.

[OngBonga]

Ya, all those people who respond negatively to racist depictions of themselves are way out of line.

Also, that example you gave had nothing to do with racism.

Racist depictions of "themselves"? "All those people"?

There's more than one Serena Williams?

[OngBonga]

I mean that's such a terrible strawman. Where did I say "black people suck"?

YOU are a racist for thinking it. You wouldn't make that assumption if I were black.

[Jack Sawyer]

Japan can teach us a lot when it comes to racism. They don't have a victim mentality, they seem to have the attititude that if someone is racist, well that's the racist's problem, not theirs. .

Yeah, they mostly teach that if your daughter marries a gaijin, disown her.

[MadMojoMonkey]

It's almost like painting a large group of people with broad strokes is bound to end with your foot in your mouth.
Amazing.

I mean to think... when you say things about people whom you don't know at all and have never met, you tend to say something that has no bearing on those people.
It's like speaking from ignorance is bound to result in saying ignorant things.

Surely we need more data on this.
Someone throw some cash at poopy. He's a psycho-doctor, right?
Qualified enough for gov't monies, I'm sure.

[Poopadoop]

Haha I actually don't think we can learn much of anything from social psychology. Too many uncontrolled variables, there.

[MadMojoMonkey]

Haha I actually don't think we can learn much of anything from social psychology. Too many uncontrolled variables, there.

Isn't that what p-hacking is for?

[Poopadoop]

Isn't that what p-hacking is for?

If you're gonna do that you might as well go straight to making up the data. Save yourself some time.

[Poopadoop]

Also, agree with Jack. It's not hard to mock Serena for losing her shit banana-style without depicting her as donkey kong. I suspect that if one did draw that cartoon in a racially sensitive way, it would actually be funny without being offensive.

[MadMojoMonkey]

OMG!!
Propper speeling killz!

[Poopadoop]

That is a pretty sweet correlation though.

[MadMojoMonkey]

That is a pretty sweet correlation though.

Piecewise cubic curve-fits are sexxy.
Using them gives +15% truthiness to any plot.

[Poopadoop]

Piecewise cubic curve-fits are sexxy.
Using them gives +15% truthiness to any plot.

Makes me wonder if we can find out what causes deaths by lawnmower too.