*** Official Politics Shitposting Thread ***

[Poopadoop]

Here's a theory (just a theory): Assange is a stooge of a foreign power trying to undermine the West. Could be China, Russia, N. Korea, Iran -they all hate us. His job is to create a whistleblower persona and 'leak' phony docs that make our gov'ts look bad. Our side can't just say 'that's fake' because no-one will believe us and there's no way to prove it anyways.

Again, just a theory. For all I know he could be legit and either way it doesn't change the fact that our rulers are assholes. It's just interesting to ponder who 'wins' when our gov't gets publicly shamed.

And it's not like ambassadors aren't prime targets for espionage. So, how do you know Murray is living hand-to-mouth? 'Cause he says so in his blog?

[OngBonga]

So, how do you know Murray is living hand-to-mouth? 'Cause he says so in his blog?

Indirectly, yeah. You haven't seen how much he's plugging his book.

[Shotglass]

Here's a theory (just a theory): Assange is a stooge of a foreign power trying to undermine the West. Could be China, Russia, N. Korea, Iran -they all hate us. His job is to create a whistleblower persona and 'leak' phony docs that make our gov'ts look bad. Our side can't just say 'that's fake' because no-one will believe us and there's no way to prove it anyways.

Again, just a theory. For all I know he could be legit and either way it doesn't change the fact that our rulers are assholes. It's just interesting to ponder who 'wins' when our gov't gets publicly shamed.

And it's not like ambassadors aren't prime targets for espionage. So, how do you know Murray is living hand-to-mouth? 'Cause he says so in his blog?

That'd be a helluva lotta fakery.

Two questions,

Has the dossier actually been proven to be false? If so I've missed something.

What do you consider real news?

I don't think it's actually been proven false...more like unable to be substantiated. Kinda dif to prove a negative. IMO, it's really sayin something if the clinton news network won't run with it.

[Poopadoop]

That'd be a helluva lotta fakery.

So why does he do it then? And why doesn't he hack other countries outside the West? I've never seen a Russian or Chinese wikileak, have you?

Also, it's not like no-one has ever faked documents before, especially if they can access the originals.

Again, not saying it's true, just saying you can't assume everything that comes from Assange is the gospel truth just 'cause he projects a certain image.

[OngBonga]

So why does he do it then? And why doesn't he hack other countries outside the West? I've never seen a Russian or Chinese wikileak, have you?

Also, it's not like no-one has ever faked documents before, especially if they can access the originals.

Again, not saying it's true, just saying you can't assume everything that comes from Assange is the gospel truth just 'cause he projects a certain image.

It has bugger all to do with his image, and everything to do with track record. I give Wikileaks a lot more credit today than I did a few years ago.

FYI, there have been leaks relating to China. There are 5000+ govt officials who have bank accounts in Switzerland, with the money being laundered through Hong Kong. There's also something about China being willing to abandon North Korea. I'm not sure about Russia, google results bring up a huge amount of stuff relating to the current climate, and I can't be fucked to trawl through it all.

[Poopadoop]

It has bugger all to do with his image, and everything to do with track record. I give Wikileaks a lot more credit today than I did a few years ago.

FYI, there have been leaks relating to China. There are 5000+ govt officials who have bank accounts in Switzerland, with the money being laundered through Hong Kong. There's also something about China being willing to abandon North Korea. I'm not sure about Russia, google results bring up a huge amount of stuff relating to the current climate, and I can't be fucked to trawl through it all.

So publishing a bunch of leaked/hacked stuff makes you incapable of lying? I didn't realise that.