*** Official Politics Shitposting Thread ***

[BananaStand]

@MMM Sometimes I don't get you. There are clear instances in post #1585 where it looks like you "get it". But then you completely blow it with stuff like:

I think we can all appreciate a father's instinct to protect his family

No. This sentiment needs to be dropped from the discussion. There's no evidence that shows that his family needed protection. Were they being threatened? Were they in danger? What facts are known that could have reasonably led a person to react instinctively?

Yes I can appreciate a father's protection instincts. But I can also appreciate the obligation to be a non-psycho and differentiate between a a threat to your family's safety, and a person saying "you can't park here"

Strawman time! Let's say a Vietnam veteran has a flashback and shoots a north vietnamese immigrant in the street. Are you gonna say "I think we can all appreciate a soldier's instinct to protect his country"

That's not death-sentence worthy activity, though.

You need to stop saying shit like this too. "sentence" makes it sound like the shooter made a calculated decision about justice. You're implying that he shot this man as a retaliation for an offense, or as punishment for one.

The man was physically aggressive. He was NOT backing away (before the gun was pulled). I'll bet my house that whatever was spilling out of his mouth was not pleasant. He was acting like a deranged gorilla invoking family-protection instincts. You're on the ground. He's still coming at you. You don't know if he's armed. And you don't know if he's going to stop assaulting you. This is not the time to be weighing a judicial philosophy of whether or not a bullet is a commensurate response to a punch. You're under attack. Respond.

[Poopadoop]

He was acting like a deranged gorilla

Good job not being a racist there.

[BananaStand]

Good job not being a racist there.

Gorilla seems like an apt analogy for a person indiscriminately flailing brute strength. If I had taken a second to think about it, I would have realized how not-PC it is to liken black people to gorillas. I didn't do that, because I don't think I should have to. I shouldn't have to narrow my vocabulary, or be forced to discriminate among my vocabulary, just to accommodate racial sensitivity.

I had totally forgotten that the guy was black when I made that post. So I'm not sorry. The guy acted like crazed simian and I feel comfortable describing his behavior as such.

[Poopadoop]

Gorilla seems like an apt analogy for a person indiscriminately flailing brute strength. If I had taken a second to think about it, I would have realized how not-PC it is to liken black people to gorillas. I didn't do that, because I don't think I should have to. I shouldn't have to narrow my vocabulary, or be forced to discriminate among my vocabulary, just to accommodate racial sensitivity.

I had totally forgotten that the guy was black when I made that post. So I'm not sorry. The guy acted like crazed simian and I feel comfortable describing his behavior as such.

Of course you're not going to apologize. It's just ironic that a self-professed "zomg i'll bust your teeth if you ever call me a racist to my face" (as if anyone here wants to meet you in person lol) guy finds it apt to compare an angry black person to a gorilla.

"Forgot he was black" lmao. Didn't you start this whole convo because it was about some lawyer who was going around repping black people who'd been shot by white people? Wasn't that the whole thing about it that stuck in your little craw?

[BananaStand]

"Forgot he was black" lmao. Didn't you start this whole convo because it was about some lawyer who was going around repping black people who'd been shot by white people? Wasn't that the whole thing about it that stuck in your little craw?

yeah, but then we started talking about the individual involved in the altercation, and his specific individual behavior. When race became irrelevant, I stopped thinking about it.

[Poopadoop]

yeah, but then we started talking about the individual involved in the altercation, and his specific individual behavior. When race became irrelevant, I stopped thinking about it.

ya sure. you suddenly forgot it was a black man and a white man involved.

Why don't you just be a man and admit it.

[BananaStand]

ya sure. you suddenly forgot it was a black man and a white man involved.

Why don't you just be a man and admit it.

I would. But I swear to L. Ron that I forgot. Literally. We were talking about the race thing yesterday, and now we're all caught up in the actual incident, and not the manipulative demagoguery that followed. So yeah, my thoughts were all within the context of two people in an altercation about a parking dispute. Race wasn't in there.

[BananaStand]

"zomg i'll bust your teeth if you ever call me a racist to my face"

Not what I said

[OngBonga]

Not what I said

It's a fair paraphrase, imo. It's certainly what you implied. That's why I called you out on it, because it can so easily be interpreted exactly as poop descirbed it. In fact, I'm struggling to find a different way to interpret "if you call me racist to my face, you might want to take a careful inventory of your teeth", or whatever the exact wording was.

[OngBonga]

Good job not being a racist there.

It didn't even occur to me that "gorilla" can be seen as racist, until you mentioned it.

I've said it before, I'll say it again... it's you who seems to have an obsession with skin colour. Here, you're basically suggesting there's a list of insults that are acceptable to be directed at white people, but not black people, of which "gorilla" is one of. That is racism, not insulting someone who happens to be black.

[BananaStand]

It didn't even occur to me that "gorilla" can be seen as racist, until you mentioned it.

It didn't occur to me either, even though I did know of the connection. It's just not something I'm sensitive to because I live in a state with like six black people and this doesn't come up very often.

Here, you're basically suggesting there's a list of insults that are acceptable to be directed at white people, but not black people.

It's not just him

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/14/polit...cks/index.html

Calling Steve Bannon a dog = Fine
Calling Omarosa a dog for the exact same reason in the exact same context = racism.

[OngBonga]

Calling Steve Bannon a dog = Fine
Calling Omarosa a dog for the exact same reason in the exact same context = racism.

I have no idea how "dog" can even be argued as racist. Rottweiler? Sure, but vague "dog"? That's as racially offensive as "fucking moronic idiot".