*** Official Politics Shitposting Thread ***

[MadMojoMonkey]

IIRC, the Amish kick their teens out of Amish country, and don't let them back for a bit and even then, they have to ask to come back as adults whom are choosing Amish life, knowing what they're giving up.

That's pretty remarkable.

[BananaStand]

IIRC, the Amish kick their teens out of Amish country, and don't let them back for a bit and even then, they have to ask to come back as adults whom are choosing Amish life, knowing what they're giving up.

That's pretty remarkable.

is it? Is it really remarkable?

So when I visited Amish country, they showed us a video called "Jacob's Choice". And it was all about the process you just described. 'Jacob', the main character was at the age where he had to make his decision about going back to Amish country, or venturing out into the real world.

most of the plot is Jacob arguing with his parents because he's considering leaving. And thinking about an Amish girl he likes, but she's not leaving. Blah blah blah blah.

then Jacob leaves.

Then there is a montage of Jacob walking along country roads, through fields, hitchiking, etc. There's some close up shots of his face as he travels. There's some shots of him looking at buildings. And the montage just goes on and on.

Suddenly Jacob's sister becomes the narrator and tells us "Jacob eventually came back....."

Cut to Jacob with a beard, married to that girl he likes, playing with his amish babies.

And that's the Amish propaganda about their 'remarkable' sacrament of independence.

and at the end of the video, the tour hosts will tell you that 95% of Amish people's stories end like Jacob's. Only 5% decide to leave.

Can you spot what's wrong with this picture? It's quite the opposite of 'remarkable'.

[OngBonga]

If an Amish girl marries an outsider, does her father stab her in the heart? Just want to get some relative comparison to other remarkable religions.

[Poopadoop]

Ruh roh!

[BananaStand]

Ruh roh!

It's BS

First, the stuff this woman claims is so mild...I would still support the guy's nomination even if it's all true.

Second, it's her word against his.

Third, he was a kid

fourth, MAGA

[Poopadoop]

It's BS

First, the stuff this woman claims is so mild...I would still support the guy's nomination even if it's all true.

Second, it's her word against his.

Third, he was a kid

fourth, MAGA

Too bad you don't get a vote. The senators do though, and they have to think about how it would look to their constituents if they appointed a 'zomg accused rapist' to the SC.

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[BananaStand]

Too bad you don't get a vote. The senators do though, and they have to think about how it would look to their constituents if they appointed a 'zomg accused rapist' to the SC.

What's that now?

[BananaStand]

If an Amish girl marries an outsider, does her father stab her in the heart? Just want to get some relative comparison to other remarkable religions.

No. If that happened, all of the other Amish people would shun that girl's father.

It's abhorrently cruel

No sarcasm there. It's basically solitary confinement, but you still have to go to work.

[MadMojoMonkey]

is it? Is it really remarkable?

Yes. Behold the remarks which follow:

So when I visited Amish country, they showed us a video called "Jacob's Choice". And it was all about the process you just described. 'Jacob', the main character was at the age where he had to make his decision about going back to Amish country, or venturing out into the real world.

most of the plot is Jacob arguing with his parents because he's considering leaving. And thinking about an Amish girl he likes, but she's not leaving. Blah blah blah blah.

then Jacob leaves.

Then there is a montage of Jacob walking along country roads, through fields, hitchiking, etc. There's some close up shots of his face as he travels. There's some shots of him looking at buildings. And the montage just goes on and on.

Suddenly Jacob's sister becomes the narrator and tells us "Jacob eventually came back....."

Cut to Jacob with a beard, married to that girl he likes, playing with his amish babies.

And that's the Amish propaganda about their 'remarkable' sacrament of independence.

and at the end of the video, the tour hosts will tell you that 95% of Amish people's stories end like Jacob's. Only 5% decide to leave.

Can you spot what's wrong with this picture?

Case closed

It's quite the opposite of 'remarkable'.

[BananaStand]

Case closed

Boy oh boy. I thought this was obvious.

Ok....

did you notice how I never described the scene where Jacob tries to get a job. Or the one where he tries to find an apartment. Or where he tries to open a bank account?

He has no money
no references
no experience
no skills other than tobacco farming
he reads on...maybe a fifth grade level.
He has no social security number
No diploma
No credit
No friends
No home
and he probably has a sketchy command of the english language

Are you surprised he went back to the Amish? Don't you think the title of the film, Jacob's Choice, is a little misleading now?

Does it really sound like he had a "choice"?

Don't you think that 95% retention rate is a little suspicious? That's like Saddam Hussein's election results! Do you trust that?

That's not remarkable.

That's flat out oppression

it's a human rights catastrophe ok. Case closed

[MadMojoMonkey]

[Continues to remark]

That's not remarkable.

You're like a meme at this point.

[BananaStand]

You're like a meme at this point.

Your first post on this subject clearly, and most obviously, used the word "remarkable" as a synonym for "impressive", "exceptional", "wonderful", "marvelous". These are all synomyms that appear in an actual thesaurus and are consistent with the colloquial definition of "remarkable".

Now...suddenly......when you're opinion has been debunked as erroneous, now you want to PRETEND like you were using the word remarkable to mean "that upon which remarks can be made", which could apply to anything...and not give any connotation whatsoever. In other words, not only did you fail to contribute to the conversation, you actually took it backwards.

And yet you still bitch and moan about the tone around here....you whine about the lack of productive discourse???

Explain yourself please?

What exactly is your point? And if you don't have a point...why are you talking?

[MadMojoMonkey]

I misunderstood your first point, because I expose myself to so much hyperbole and rhetoric on a regular basis that when someone speaks to me using words' literal meanings, I don't expect candor. It throws me off.

That said, rather than accept personal responsibility for my misunderstanding, I blame you for using words by their literal meanings. Despite my overreaction to something you didn't say, I hold you responsible.

Thank you for sharing your feelings with us.

And yet you still bitch and moan about the tone around here....you whine about the lack of productive discourse???

I appreciate the productive nature this question has on the topic of the Amish, but I'm not interested in your aggressive then passive-aggressive nonsense.

Explain yourself please?

I find the Amish people do a lot of remarkable things. That is all.
The Mennonites are pretty similar in my understanding.
I don't know of too many cults that don't simply indoctrinate the children and effectively imprison them as they become adults.
If nothing else, the Amish take on it is a different approach.

I don't care one bit whether or not it's moral or ethical. Other people can worry about that stuff. If it's a human rights tragedy or whatever you claimed, then it's kinda interesting that no one is being assaulted. It sounds like your argument to that effect is like a Stockholm Syndrome kind of thing. Which again, I'm not taking any moral stance on.

People are willing to go to extremes to live a familiar lifestyle. Look at all the hubbub over people feeling they're entitled to die in a culture similar to the one they were raised in. People care about stuff like that which I can't even understand why. I just accept that people feel entitled to all sorts of things which nature doesn't agree on. Sometimes that leads to good things. Sometimes bad.

What exactly is your point? And [some nonsense to buoy my ego]

People do all kinds of weird things, and plenty of them make no sense, but could be a lot better or worse.