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 Originally Posted by CoccoBill
No, we're just trying to stick to relevant topics. Yes, what happened in Iraq and Afghanistan was also bad. But is Ukraine a threat to the safety of the region or its own citizens?
Exactly.
Originally Posted by CoccoBill
Did the West execute civilians in those wars?
Off topic, but "execute" in the sense of lining them up and shooting them? Not so much. In the sense of indiscriminately killing civilians, yeah I think it's pretty clear that happened. That said, it was despicable then and it's despicable now.
Ong's reductio whataboutismo is a non-argument afaic.
Originally Posted by CoccoBill
If by the west you mean NATO, then yes, in the interaction between Russia and the NATO, they are trying to be the bully-stoppers, but not very effective ones.
I think NATO is doing about as much as it can without sending its own troops in. Arms and other aid to Ukraine, sanctions on Putin. What else do you think NATO can reasonably do?
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