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[CoccoBill]

Hard to imagine it's not focused on how the West (US) has crippled his people out of hate for Russian culture.

Care to elaborate? I'm not sure I've seen much of that, rather repeated attempts to welcome Russia towards western values and partnership.

Remember when Gorbachev came to the US in the '80's and refused to believe that the perfectly normal American grocery stores weren't absolutely staged to trick him into believing we could provide such a wealth and variety of foods everywhere.

Yeltsin not Gorbachev, but yeah, I do.

[Poopadoop]

Yeltsin not Gorbachev, but yeah, I do.

The look on his face when he saw THREE different types of vodka on sale. "Dis not real, dis cheep American propaganda trick!"

[MadMojoMonkey]

Care to elaborate? I'm not sure I've seen much of that, rather repeated attempts to welcome Russia towards western values and partnership.

It's just my personal predictions and fears.

I fear the ramifications of the economic sanctions on Russia are going to cause a depression that will make the US's "Great Depression" of the 1920's look like a cake walk.

The first wave of sanctions was crippling, then wave after wave rolled in from more and more countries, hitting so many different sectors.

I'm no expert. Just a guy who knows that tiny changes to a nation's economy can have heavy and long-term ramifications. The scope of the changes that happened to Russia's economy is anything but tiny.

External communications companies are pulling out of Russia. Russia is already clamped down on any news reporting that is not in lock-step with their ministry of defense. Communications into Russia are evaporating, and within Russia, the state controls everything.

I cannot believe that the Russian regime will use this to paint themselves as the warlords who did this to their people.
I cannot believe they will use that for anything but fomenting a hatred of the non-Russians who treat them like they're less than people.

Yeltsin not Gorbachev, but yeah, I do.

Thanks for the correction.

[CoccoBill]

It's just my personal predictions and fears.

I fear the ramifications of the economic sanctions on Russia are going to cause a depression that will make the US's "Great Depression" of the 1920's look like a cake walk.

The first wave of sanctions was crippling, then wave after wave rolled in from more and more countries, hitting so many different sectors.

I'm no expert. Just a guy who knows that tiny changes to a nation's economy can have heavy and long-term ramifications. The scope of the changes that happened to Russia's economy is anything but tiny.

External communications companies are pulling out of Russia. Russia is already clamped down on any news reporting that is not in lock-step with their ministry of defense. Communications into Russia are evaporating, and within Russia, the state controls everything.

I cannot believe that the Russian regime will use this to paint themselves as the warlords who did this to their people.
I cannot believe they will use that for anything but fomenting a hatred of the non-Russians who treat them like they're less than people.

Ah I see, I misread what you meant, I agree completely. I don't think anyone on the planet is an expert on what these kind of sanctions do to a country's economy, there's just no precedent. All I can think of is it's gonna be devastating and as always, it's the innocent that are gonna suffer the worst. Best case scenario is either the oligarchs or the people will stand up, a palace coup or an uprising, both of which are not seeming very likely at the moment. I just don't see a road for reconciliation with Putin in charge anymore. The worst case I'd rather not think about. Reading what the Russian media and the RU administration are saying about what's going on is just totally mindblowing.

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Orthodox clerics have the best hats. This is Lord of the Rings shit.

https://twitter.com/NAChristakis/sta...91581264015361

[CoccoBill]

Apparently the first 17km of the 64km convoy north of Kyiv is out of gas and with empty batteries, they initially had 3 days worth of food and supplies. It's now day 9. Supply trucks are unable to pass due to mud and are able to fill up/service 100-200m of the convoy at a time.