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 Originally Posted by poop
If they're seeking asylum in the UK, yes, I'm saying we should do this. It would stop the human trafficking and be a lot safer for them than coming over in dinghies.
And what happens after we've collected everyone from Calais that wants to come to England? More people come to Calais wanting to come to England.
What you're saying here is that the UK is open to literally anyone in the world who wants to come.
You OTOH, seem to want them all to somehow find their way to Paris...
What I meant by that was that I want them to be documented. Whether it's Paris, Calais, Damascus, wherever there is a British office for dealing with asylum seekers. What I don't want is people from around the world turning up at Calais, getting on a boat, and then being in Britain, without at any point having made an application for asylum. You don't turn up in Dover and apply there, otherwise we have no control over immigration and the borders are practically open to the world.
Which is fucking stupid.
Here's the ukgov website on asylum applications.
This is for refugees who are not safe in their country. And it also says this...
You should apply when you arrive in the UK or as soon as you think it would be unsafe for you to return to your own country. Your application is more likely to be denied if you wait.
So this implies you should apply as soon as possible, and ideally not from England.
Economic migrants should not be turning up unannounced.
This is why earlier I tried to distinguish between migrants and refugees. One group of people are fleeing war and can turn up unannounced, although in the case of the UK it's hard to understand why they would do so since they are not fleeing a border country to the UK. But still, refugees are fleeing war and I don't have a problem with this at all.
Economic migrants are seeking a better life. There's a ridiculous amount of people in the world who would like better economic opportunities. Most of India, population 1 billion. It should be obvious the UK does not have room for India. Where's the line? You must have a line poop, you must realise there comes a point where we're full up.
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