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[Poopadoop]

Going back to your previous comment about just going to Calais to pick them up... this is a ludicrous solution that does not solve the problem. More people just come to Calais and demand the UK comes to collect them. Why should the UK do this?

You're right, treating refugees humanely will only encourage more to come. It would solve the dinghy problem though.

The solution seems to me to change the law.

That's going to be a bit tricky I think. It's an international agreement that's been around a long time.

[OngBonga]

That's going to be a bit tricky I think. It's an international agreement that's been around a long time.

yeah I wondered if it was international law rather than British law.

Surely you see that this is the problem though?

You're right, treating refugees humanely will only encourage more to come. It would solve the dinghy problem though.

Temporarily. How long can this go on for? How many people can the UK bring like this? This is an open border policy, just to stop people from taking ludicrous risks coming to the UK from a safe country. It would be an ever increasing flow of people, until one day we say "enough" and we're back to square one.

If I threaten to swim to USA< should they come and collect me?

[MadMojoMonkey]

If I threaten to swim to USA< should they come and collect me?

You know I'd come get you, honey bee.

[OngBonga]

You know I'd come get you, honey bee.

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[Poopadoop]

yeah I wondered if it was international law rather than British law.

Surely you see that this is the problem though?

I guess it's a problem if you don't want to help refugees yeah.

I think the idea of being physically in the country you're applying for asylum is to keep countries from setting up an embassy in a country neighboring the refugee country, insisting applications come through there, and then the neighboring country having to look after the refugees while the target country processes their applications, which they could arguably then delay indefinitely.

This is an open border policy, just to stop people from taking ludicrous risks coming to the UK from a safe country. It would be an ever increasing flow of people, until one day we say "enough" and we're back to square one.

It's not open-border, that implies you approve all the applications. No-one is suggesting that, it's just about giving the opportunity to apply.

You don't know it would be ever-increasing. All you know is it would be more than we're taking now. There's not an infinite number of people trying to get into the UK.

If I threaten to swim to USA< should they come and collect me?

That's up to them really. If we're talking about a 2 hour ferry ride, that's different to me than a cross-ocean ride.

[OngBonga]

I mean, we could just go and collect everyone from Calais, take them to a secure location in England, process their applications, and then deport those who fail back to France. That would solve the problem. It would require France's cooperation though.

[OngBonga]

And it wouldn't solve the problem indefinitely, because these secure processing centres would quickly fill up. So it would likely result in a bottleneck in Calais.