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This is exactly how to win a war if it's the only option you have left. And if there's any people on the planet more capable of living in frozen forests and tundra, it's the Russians. It's pretty much how they won the 1812 war with France. The Russians will outlast any occupiers in such conditions. And they'll nuke their own cities if they have to.

If the Russians retreat to the tundra, they'll survive, bank it.

You're not going to win a war against Russia taking their cities. All you can do is get bogged down into an occupation that is slowly going to kill your men. Eventually you have to retreat, and the Russians emerge from the frozen forest. This is what having such a large and inhospitable country can do for you. This is why Russia will never be defeated. They can only be subdued for a period of time.

Ok thanks for that expert analysis.

Nonsense. At the start of the war, the Royal Navy was the greatest naval power in the world. By the end of the war, it was the Americans. The Japanese were always a distant third. This is a matter of fact, based on the size of the navies in question In terms of merchant tonnage, our navy was five times bigger than Japan's. Five.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_...f_World_War_II

Battleships, cruisers and destroyers were basically useless by WWII. A merchant marine isn't part of your battle fleet, so if we're talking about naval power, they're irrelevant.

Aircraft carriers ruled the waves. Japan had more and better aircraft carriers than the UK in WWII, until the US Navy sunk them all.

Like Switzerland, right?

Picks a name of a country that didn't fight in WWII. Well played sir.

Like Yugoslavia, Greece, Norway.

Well actually I'm saying let's not pretend we have moral high ground. We're playing the same game they are.

No, you've been saying you have a problem with helping Ukraine because some people in their army are bad people. Not the same as what you say here.

Next time it'll probably be £80.

This time next year it could be £250.

How long is this going to go on for? And even when it ends, how long do the Russian sanctions go on for? The longer it goes on, the worse it is for everyone.

So when we impose economic sanctions on ourselves you're not worried about it, but when we impose them on Russia you think it's going to ruin our economy?

I'm of the opinion that arming and training revolutionists in foreign countries is morally comparable to invading that country, especially when those revolutionists are jihadists and Nazis.

So you ARE saying you have a problem with helping Ukraine. I thought that's what I read before.