I think we can focus on the recent past, for example this century. All the wars we've been involved with this century, they have been acts of aggression, not defence. Afghanistan was in response to 9/11, even though it was mostly Saudis and no Afghans who flew those planes. Even though Bin Laden himself was a Saudi. Why didn't we go to war with Saudi Arabia? Because they sell us too much oil, it would have destroyed our economies. So we came up with some bullshit that the Taliban were responsible for harbouring terrorists, while pretending Pakistan weren't. Why did we go for Afghanistan? Geopolitics. Not remotely a moral position.

Iraq was a huge lie, based on the claim that they had weapons of mass destruction and they could deploy them and strike the UK within 45 minutes. That's how they sold the war to us. Of course it was a complete crock of shit. What was really happening, best I could tell, was Saddam was threatening to ditch the dollar as a petrocurrency. Unacceptable to the west.

This is relevant, at least to me. When we sit here and judge others for doing what we do, it makes us hypocrites.

If all you guys want to do is talk about how dreadful Russia are while ignoring how dreadful we are, just ignore me. Expecting me to stfu and take my comments to another thread isn't cutting it, sorry.