Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
Glad I don't live where you do lol.
Oh?
So what planet are you on?
and with what species do you commune?

Earth and humans?
Yeah... you live in the same place I do.

smartass.
lol

Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
But let's say they should. It doesn't take two years of your life to learn those skills, and the other clerking and middle management skills or whatever else you're being made to do.
It takes more than 2 years to learn any martial art I know of.
Learning to defend yourself from violent humans isn't something you can accomplish in a 2-week crash course.

I wish we lived in a world without violent humans who want to hurt and/or kill others.
As long as we do live in that world, let's be frank about it, and practical about it.
If trusting the police and other state agencies to protect you provides you with a sense of security to be happy and productive, then great.
For many people, that is not enough. They want a sense of personal security that comes from not relying on outside agencies to provide and maintain that security. That's fine and great, too, IMO.

Being trained in self defense, up to and including how to defend yourself against murder, including how to kill before being killed if that's what it comes to, is a practical life skill.

Just look at Ukraine. You can only rely on the state to protect you until you can't anymore. Then you must act to protect yourself.

It's a harsh world, but ignoring the harshness doesn't make it go away.