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 Originally Posted by wufwugy
A highly sought job should be a privilege, but the right to any job should absolutely be a right. We live in a society with all sorts of interdependencies, and we have virtually no choice in the matter. The backbone of this society is the ability to work to provide for oneself.
There is nothing fundamentally different between a social right to be able to feed, clothe, and shelter yourself and the social right to speak or congregate or practice religion. As long as I'm a mandatory citizen of my society, I should have the right to adequately function in that society. Not providing the right to employment in this society is like not providing the right to chop trees or hunt animals on whatever land you currently occupy in tribal societies
The right to employment is just as basic as any of our other established rights. The difference is it's not been established in this society.
I fundamentally disagree with these statements. It is my belief that in a tribal society if you are unable to contribute, you are cast out of that society, as they are unwilling and unable to support you. It is your choice to survive or not to survive, to work to improve your condition or not to. The 'right' you mention to provide your basic needs of shelter, clothing and food is a choice, you choose to provide them or you choose not to.
Let me try to explain it a bit differently. Without providing some value to the society, even in tribal societies, you are a burden to that society, not a contributing member. Thus you don't get to have any power or any 'value' to the society. The only members of tribal society that I have learned of that do not work are usually the shamans. They provide value by contributing the knowledge and 'mysticism' that the society feels it needs. If they stop providing that value, they are forced to either work or are cast out.
Another way to look at it, if this was a right, why are there still starving peoples in third world areas of this planet of ours?
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