A real buzzkill (seriously; the environment dudes)

[Monty3038]

Policy of that era is a great example of how right-wingers oppose it when they can, but gobble up the benefits when they can, then claim the positives were their ideas all along

I guess I'm confused by this as I don't hear any conservatives claiming the new deal was their idea.

Obama's stimulus has a few problems, but also a few excellent things.

It was not even remotely capable of fixing the economy due to improper size, type of stimuli, and policy changes. It's not even close, too. The next time you hear somebody made the simplistic comment that the stimulus didn't work or whatever, please stop listening to them because they have no clue what they're talking about. Like seriously, they either don't even understand the first thing about economics or they're lying

So what was the point of Obama's stimulus package that is rebuilding approximately 30 bridges in my area, running High speed internet throughout rural areas, etc... all of which are multi-year projects... as well as many short term projects. If it wasn't the point of putting people to work and jump starting the economy, what was the point of it?

A big chunk of the stimulus are deleterious tax cuts, and they actually have a negative drag on the economy. Barry No Balls is somehow incapable of fighting for what is right so he needed to put all those confirmed awful tax cuts in there in order to get a couple necessary votes. Not to mention this new "stimulus" of tax cuts is beyond a joke. It's more a product of the establishment believing their own shit, and a tool that allowed Barry No Balls to convince the Democratic Party-liners that he's not one of the most conservative presidents in US history by getting passage of a few incredibly popular and standard bills.

Some of the stimulus package, however, is R&D type of stuff and infrastructure that will pay off quite a lot over decades. It's not nearly as good as the New Deal was, but we got what our stupid voters deserve, I guess

Ok, I had to look deleterious up to be sure it was what I thought it was. I don't know who Barry No Balls is, so let me try to find that out. I don't know what awful tax cuts you are talking about, so I don't know how to take your discussion here. Wait, are you talking about Obama? Ok, it appears to be what you mean. Obama doesn't seem to be too concerned with conservative values, as government continues to expand and spend, spend, spend. Bush wasn't a conservative either, as he expanded and expanded government.

In regards to the R&D stuff, I hope some of it pays off over decades, I hope something some of these guys do actually pays off. I would rather government get out of the way in most things, but sometimes they do something right.