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    So, as a side note of the crap happening here...how's it going to affect the websites that deal with online poker. Will the loss of the US players hurt those websites in the long term?
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    So, as a side note of the crap happening here...how's it going to affect the websites that deal with online poker. Will the loss of the US players hurt those websites in the long term?
    PartyPoker seems to be doing not too bad for the last few years.
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    It will obviously hurt the poker rooms as there are less players, meaning less rake. Before this shit hit the fan, Stars were rolling in around $1.5m a day. Americans don't even make up the bulk of Stars' traffic, that honour goes to Europe, so I imagine they're still raking in over $1m a day. That's still a very viable business.
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    It will obviously hurt the poker rooms as there are less players, meaning less rake. Before this shit hit the fan, Stars were rolling in around $1.5m a day. Americans don't even make up the bulk of Stars' traffic, that honour goes to Europe, so I imagine they're still raking in over $1m a day. That's still a very viable business.
    Stars WAS rolling like 8million a day. They'll still be rolling like 5.
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    Stars WAS rolling like 80000000million a day. They'll still be rolling like 799999998.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Americans don't even make up the bulk of Stars' traffic, that honour goes to Europe,
    Is this true? Source?
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    Is this true? Source?
    Pfft, I'm just regurgitating stuff I read, I can't be bothered to trawl through the countless articles I've read since this shit hit the fan, most of it is probably shit. dthorne04 made a good point though, I'm comparing a country to a continent, it should come as no surprise that the population of an entire continent makes up more of the traffic that a single large country. I can't remember where I got those numbers from relating to stars' profits either, clearly it's misinformation. If they're making more than what I read, then it makes continued business even more viable, it would be insane to walk away from a multi-million-dollar-a-day business just because they've lost like 25% or whatever of their market. From the perspective of someone outside of America, this whole episode should be of no direct concern.

    I do feel for you guys in USA though, I thought this would've blown over within a day or three. Looks like this is going to drag on.
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    I do feel for you guys in USA though, I thought this would've blown over within a day or three. Looks like this is going to drag on.
    Meh, it's the weekend, we're pretty fucking lazy on the weekends, as a country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    It will obviously hurt the poker rooms as there are less players, meaning less rake. Before this shit hit the fan, Stars were rolling in around $1.5m a day. Americans don't even make up the bulk of Stars' traffic, that honour goes to Europe, so I imagine they're still raking in over $1m a day. That's still a very viable business.
    comparing an entire continent vs. country imo. semi apples to oranges. this is going to be fairly catastrophic to some sites no matter what the outcome because of this. there's been a shitload of estimates thrown around of what % of the poker stars market that americans comprise but numbers between 25-40 percent have been quite common.
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    I wasn't talking about the poker rooms...I am talking about the side businesses that are associated with online poker...Forums, books, rakeback sites, ect.
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    Last two Pokerstars Sunday millions:

    April 10th (pre-black friday) 1.5M guaranteed, 8273 entrants (155k over the gtd amount)
    April 17th (post-black friday) 1M guaranteed, 6475 entrants (295k over the gtd amount)

    They only lowered the guaranteed by 33%, and they cleared that guarantee by a higher margin. There were 22% less players this Sunday, but the guarantee was also much lower.

    So I'd guess that USA players made up 20-25% of the Sunday million player pool. Could likely extrapolate this somewhat accurately to the whole site.
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    Its just a matter of time before the USA regulates online poker for Americans...Of course they want to tax it and get their cut because the government needs more money..The Feds want there hands in everything,Auto insursance,health care, etc..
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    You know what's really fucked up? Last night I was playing poker with a Chineseman and a Vietnamese.

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    Haha this reputation thing is awesome, someone negged me because I said "Chineseman"... like seriously, is something wrong with that term? Should I use simply "Chinese"? Or "Chinaman"? All three get widely used in the UK, I don't know about other countries. For fuck's sake people, what's wrong with you all? I'm gonna start negging people for inappropriate use of apostrophes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Haha this reputation thing is awesome, someone negged me because I said "Chineseman"... like seriously, is something wrong with that term? Should I use simply "Chinese"? Or "Chinaman"? All three get widely used in the UK, I don't know about other countries. For fuck's sake people, what's wrong with you all? I'm gonna start negging people for inappropriate use of apostophes.
    Dude, Chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature. Asian-American, please.
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    Dude, Chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature. Asian-American, please.
    Dude, someone from China is NOT an asian-american.

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    Dude, someone from China is NOT an asian-american.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BennyLaRue View Post
    Hey, guess who just failed Pop Culture 101?
    Dunno mate. Never heard of it.

    But you're right to point out that "Chinaman" is not the correct term to describe someone from China.

    It's the correct term to describe the stock delivery of a left-arm "unorthodox" spin bowler.

    Hope everything's clear now.
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    I don't mind the neg for whining. That one is fair.
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    Let's play a game...

    He is English. He is an Englishman.

    He is Chinese. He is a _______?
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    He is English. He is an Englishman.

    He is Chinese. He is a _______?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Let's play a game...

    He is English. He is an Englishman.

    He is Chinese. He is a _______?
    The chinaman is not the issue here, dude!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    He is English. He is an Englishman.

    He is Chinese. He is a _______?
    Yeh, but that's the beauty of the English language, innit?

    There aren't equivalent compound terms applicable for every case:-

    • He is Russian, so he is a Russianman? Nope
    • He is German, so he is a Germanman? Nope


    It seems that Englishman, Scotsman, Irishman, Welshman and [oddly] Frenchman are the exceptions rather than the rule.

    Also, according to the OED, there's no such word as "Chineseman", and I must say I've never heard it used before.

    "Chinaman" I've heard as a Cricketing term.

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    Chinaman is fine to describe a man from China (if a little outdated). It is where the bowling term comes from ldo.

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    In cricketing parlance, the word "Chinaman" is used to describe the stock delivery of a left-arm "unorthodox" spin bowler. The name has its origins in a Test match played between the West Indies and England at Old Trafford, Manchester, in the year 1933. Elliss "Puss" Achong, a player of Chinese origin, was a left-arm orthodox spinner, playing for the West Indies at the time. According to folklore, Achong is said to have had Walter Robbins stumped off a surprise delivery that spun into the right hander from outside the off stump. As he walked back to the pavilion, Robbins said to his teammates "Fancy being done by a bloody chinaman!", leading to the popularity of the term in England, and subsequently, in the rest of the world.
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    Perfectly acceptable, as in "Your Chinaman is generally good at maths but not very well endowed, basically the opposite of your mahogany specimen."
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    The beauty of the English language indeed. The irony is, of course, I actually haven't got a clue which term is correct for someone from China. And I'm fucking English, and I always paid attention at school.

    I played cards last night against a Chinese.

    It doesn't sound complete. Maybe this is why we coined the phrase Chinky.
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    Orientals. I don't think that is offensive in this country. We tend to use that word to describe the good Asians, ie the ones from China and Japan.
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    what the bloody hell happened to this thread

    Also, I believe the chinese prefer the term 'factory worker'. Or possibly 'chopstick chan'
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    It's really funny how the same term can cause varying degrees of offense depending on where it is uttered. Calling an Asian person "Oriental" is like calling a black person "Colored." At least that is the case in the US.
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    What is an Asian? Does it include people from say India?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanAronG View Post
    What is an Asian? Does it include people from say India?
    Technically, yes, as that is part of Asia. However, no, it is never used like that. There isn't really a non-offensive word that groups people from that region. Like Most of the mid-east is in Asia (I say most since Egypt, etc, are often considered part of the mid-east) but people from there are called "Middle Eastern", not "Asian." For countries like India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Burma, etc, there isn't really a term to call those people aside from "Indian, Pakistani, etc" respectively.
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    Actually, the same goes for the former Soviet countries in Asia, like Uzbekistan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boost View Post
    Technically, yes, as that is part of Asia. However, no, it is never used like that. There isn't really a non-offensive word that groups people from that region. Like Most of the mid-east is in Asia (I say most since Egypt, etc, are often considered part of the mid-east) but people from there are called "Middle Eastern", not "Asian." For countries like India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Burma, etc, there isn't really a term to call those people aside from "Indian, Pakistani, etc" respectively.
    I'm not sure you have the right to take that title away from them. We need more asians on here to give an opinion (asians being Pakistani/Indian etc as opposed to chiese or Korean etc)

    And what's wrong with the term oriental? Is that only allowed for inanimate objects? Who does it offend? Is that like people calling me British?

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    o·ri·en·talnoun /ˌôrēˈentl/ 
    orientals, plural

    1. A person of Far Eastern descent


    adjective /ˌôrēˈentl/ 


    1. Of, from, or characteristic of the Far East
      • - oriental rugs

    2. Of, from, or characteristic of the countries of Asia
    3. Of, relating to, or denoting a zoogeographical region comprising Asia south of the Himalayas and Indonesia west of Wallace's line. Distinctive animals include pandas, gibbons, tree shrews, tarsiers, and moonrats
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanAronG View Post
    What is an Asian? Does it include people from say India?
    As far as I know, the only people who commonly refer to people from the Indian subcontinent as Asian are the English.
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    Is it offensive to say here is my friend from the Asiatic region of the globe?

    You know, I actually take that back.

    I'm a Cracker. I take offense when parrots say they want me.

    I think the fact that the name of a region or country that you might hail from or your ancestors did can be considered a slight... people need to chill.

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    Apparently, they don't consider themselves of or from the Orient. They may tend to feel better titles should be used.

    As a white person just like yourself, I don't think anything is wrong with it.
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    I am just being a bit contrariwise, but I was sternly corrected on the point recently and it stuck with me. "They don't like to be called Orientals."
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    It's quite pathetic how people get offended over how we describe each other. I mean seriously, we (meaning society as a whole, not just FTRers) should as a group come up with acceptable terms to use for descibing everyone, in terms of ethnicity, height, weight, hair colour, baldness and everything else. Otherwise, how am I supposed to narrow down my porn search results?
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    Oriental is an old school way of calling them Asians. The only time I hear that word now is from my grandparents. I would say that it is slightly offensive here in Vancouver.
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    I think it is completely unfair for you to call people's sensitivities "pathetic" when you yourself are not subjected to the same sensitivities. The offense comes from the fact that the initial grouping was done by oppressive or elitist cultures to categorize cultures they dominated and/or felt superior to. For example, "negro" doesn't really carry any negative meaning as a word, except that it was implemented as a way to describe black people by their oppressors.

    Being a white Englishman it is no surprise that you are deft to the idea that using these labels can rightfully cause great offense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boost View Post
    I think it is completely unfair for you to call people's sensitivities "pathetic" when you yourself are not subjected to the same sensitivities. The offense comes from the fact that the initial grouping was done by oppressive or elitist cultures to categorize cultures they dominated and/or felt superior to. For example, "negro" doesn't really carry any negative meaning as a word, except that it was implemented as a way to describe black people by their oppressors.

    Being a white Englishman it is no surprise that you are deft to the idea that using these labels can rightfully cause great offense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boost View Post
    Being a white Englishman it is no surprise that you are deft to the idea that using these labels can rightfully cause great offense.
    Well boost, being an asian (I think) in a society that panders to the needs of everyone's littlest sensitivity it's no surprise you're overly sympathetic.

    Quote Originally Posted by boost View Post
    I think it is completely unfair for you to call people's sensitivities "pathetic" when you yourself are not subjected to the same sensitivities. The offense comes from the fact that the initial grouping was done by oppressive or elitist cultures to categorize cultures they dominated and/or felt superior to. For example, "negro" doesn't really carry any negative meaning as a word, except that it was implemented as a way to describe black people by their oppressors.
    Whilst I completely agree with your point, where does one draw the line? In the example you used above, you are stating that the historic derogatory use of the word has lead to the current offence attached to the term. I am fully aware through books, films and education of the way black people have been treated and the terms that have become offensive on the grounds of that. I do not use words such as Negro or any variation of it.

    I am not however fully aware of who may have dominated and controlled various different parts of asia or the terminoilogy such people may have used. You could argue that perhaps I should learn more. But I disagree. I don't intend to learn the histories of every dam country in the world, I have neither the time nor the desire. Or perhaps should we learn the history of every country and nation while in school? There are a hell of a lot of tribes and nations out there and it would probably be a bit too much of an ask to cover all of them, so maybe just groups who make up a certain percentage of the country you are educated in? But then what if we have an increase in immigration from a particular country? What exactly should be knocked off the syllabus to ensure a random group are not offended?

    Whilst I completely agree in removing racism from our world, I also think it is acceptable to want to be able to describe someone. If I was held up in a bank robbery by an a group of asians, I wouldn't know how to describe the origin of my attackers in any detail without potentially offending someone. That can't be right. If a particular group doesn't want to be called a certain term, they should make sure everyone is aware of this and why and what they would like to be called.

    I do not know how to differentiate between a person from Vietnam, Malaysia or Thailand based on looks alone. I do not know how to differentiate between black people from Botswana or Zambia on looks alone. I do not know how to differentiate between white people from France and Germany on looks alone. It seems it is perfectly acceptable to call the second group black, it is perfectly acceptable to call the third group white. I have no idea what I would call the first group accept asian, which gives no real idea as to who the fuck has robbed the bank.

    FWIW, I never use the term oriental in describing someone and certainly won't now I know it's potentailly offensive. I guess my point is I think people can be a bit too sensitive. If a term is universally accepted as offensive (ie the "negro" example you used) and is still used then you can't complain when someone is offended. But if a word that is still used for decriptive reasons with regard to objects and isn't commonly known as being offensive is used and no offence is intended what so ever, then it is a bit pathetic to be offended.

    I can only imagine the term "American" will be next. I can't think of any place of origin that has as many negative connotations with it. The term American is generally associated with being loud mouthed, brash, arrogant, self centered, rude and liable to offend. If I was from Alaska say, would I really want to be known as American? Associating me with those gun toting, racist rednecks from the south?

    I am almost certain this post is likely to have pissed someone off. That's not my intention. I just go annoyed by the "white Englishman" comment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanAronG View Post
    I am not however fully aware of who may have dominated and controlled various different parts of asia or the terminoilogy such people may have used. You could argue that perhaps I should learn more. But I disagree. I don't intend to learn the histories of every dam country in the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanAronG View Post
    blah blah blah
    Do you find it hard to keep up with the latest fashion trends? What about trends in popular media or politics? Or is it just references to races that leave you bewildered?

    You accidentally used a term you thought was inoffensive which turned out to be offensive. It's no big deal, it happens, no-one thinks you're racist as a result, say 'my bad', note the term for future reference and move on. There's no need to post reams of ridiculous bumfuck about cultural sensitivity to justify your use of the word.

    Quote Originally Posted by boost
    Like Most of the mid-east is in Asia (I say most since Egypt, etc, are often considered part of the mid-east) but people from there are called "Middle Eastern", not "Asian." For countries like India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Burma, etc, there isn't really a term to call those people aside from "Indian, Pakistani, etc" respectively.
    Just for reference, in the UK 'Asian' refers specifically to South Asians as that's where the majority of asian immigrants to the UK come from.

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    Meh, as somebody of Japanese descent I don't really care about the word "oriental" too much. It strikes me as a bit vague and dated, like "coloured", and smells of ignorance, and yet it's not enough to make me mad.

    I come from Canada and according to Wikipedia, it's considered an offensive term there (had no idea).
    Orient - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    edit: and where I am now in Germany, Orient refers to near-East, like Persia and Arab World. So meh. Probably safest to go with estimated continent/region of origin - East Asian, North African, Eastern European....
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    My friend used to date a Chinese girl and whenever we played monopoly if she landed on Oriental avenue he would always snicker, point at her, and say "Oriental". That seemed to piss her off. Not sure if it was because of the use of the term or just because he was a jackass.

    Whatever the case, it never failed to make me laugh.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Galapogos View Post
    My friend used to date a Chinese girl and whenever we played monopoly if she landed on Oriental avenue he would always snicker, point at her, and say "Oriental". That seemed to piss her off. Not sure if it was because of the use of the term or just because he was a jackass.

    Whatever the case, it never failed to make me laugh.
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    Oriental Avenue? You must be playing some weird version.

    You fucking Merkins can't leave a classic alone, can you?
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    Oriental Avenue? You must be playing some weird version.

    You fucking Merkins can't leave a classic alone, can you?
    Weird version? wat? Oriental comes right after reading railroad...I'm 99% sure that is the standard North American version.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JL View Post
    Weird version? wat? Oriental comes right after reading railroad...I'm 99% sure that is the standard North American version.
    Reading Railroad? Wat? Definitely a weird version. I bet the currency is a weird one too, like deniros or dollars or something.
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    My friend has that Ghettopoly, it caused a shitstorm over here when it was released and was promptly banned. My friend refuses to play it because it's worth money.
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    Seriously though, as a resident of the USA, I'm deeply offended by being called an American. It's omg so offensive like so srz rite nao.

    Will probably get bashed for this, but Dan is right, people need to settle the fuck down. I understand racism is a big deal to some people still, but jfc. Ol' Billy Bob doesn't give a fuck if you call him a shotgun wielding, NASCAR fanboy, Busch Light chuggin, fatass redneck (ok some might) but being called an 'Oriental' should seriously not be offensive. -____- Gook, chink, etc is offensive, but lolOriental.

    Idk maybe I'm just a boorish, uneducated 'Murkican.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roid_Rage View Post


    Seriously though, as a resident of the USA, I'm deeply offended by being called an American. It's omg so offensive like so srz rite nao.

    Will probably get bashed for this, but Dan is right, people need to settle the fuck down. I understand racism is a big deal to some people still, but jfc. Ol' Billy Bob doesn't give a fuck if you call him a shotgun wielding, NASCAR fanboy, Busch Light chuggin, fatass redneck (ok some might) but being called an 'Oriental' should seriously not be offensive. -____- Gook, chink, etc is offensive, but lolOriental.

    Idk maybe I'm just a boorish, uneducated 'Murkican.
    I don't take offense to any of it but yeah this is a pretty dumb opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikes View Post
    I don't take offense to any of it but yeah this is a pretty dumb opinion.
    Also, gtfo chink.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roid_Rage View Post


    Seriously though, as a resident of the USA, I'm deeply offended by being called an American. It's omg so offensive like so srz rite nao.

    Will probably get bashed for this, but Dan is right, people need to settle the fuck down. I understand racism is a big deal to some people still, but jfc. Ol' Billy Bob doesn't give a fuck if you call him a shotgun wielding, NASCAR fanboy, Busch Light chuggin, fatass redneck (ok some might) but being called an 'Oriental' should seriously not be offensive. -____- Gook, chink, etc is offensive, but lolOriental.

    Idk maybe I'm just a boorish, uneducated 'Murkican.
    I still don't understand why you feel it is up to you to decide. I mean, why are "chink" and "gook" offensive?
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    Quote Originally Posted by boost View Post
    I still don't understand why you feel it is up to you to decide. I mean, why are "chink" and "gook" offensive?

    I'm American.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boost View Post
    I still don't understand why you feel it is up to you to decide. I mean, why are "chink" and "gook" offensive?
    I think they decide those terms are offensive. Chinky is fairly widely used in this country to refer to their food, ie "I'm huingry, shall we have an Indian or a Chinky?" But just because it's common, I think it would be a stupid idea to use that term within earshot of those who are going to cook your food.

    Gook is highly offensive. That'll be because the Yanks used that term a lot during the Vietnam war.

    Oriental is not offensive, no more than calling us guys westerners. I don't particularly like being referred to as a westerner, but I'm hardly going to cry racism. I also prefer English over Briton, there are cultural differences between us and the Jocks, the Hun and the Taffies, and they all hate the English.

    Me and a friend made up a racist slur. We were sick of hearing people refer to the good people of India as "Pakis", it's highly ignorant and massively disrespectful, since the Indians tend to really hate Pakistanis, so we came up with our own insult for the Indians, as a show of respect... Bollywog. I would hope even Indians find that one funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    I think they decide those terms are offensive. Chinky is fairly widely used in this country to refer to their food, ie "I'm huingry, shall we have an Indian or a Chinky?" But just because it's common, I think it would be a stupid idea to use that term within earshot of those who are going to cook your food.

    Gook is highly offensive. That'll be because the Yanks used that term a lot during the Vietnam war.

    Oriental is not offensive, no more than calling us guys westerners. I don't particularly like being referred to as a westerner, but I'm hardly going to cry racism. I also prefer English over Briton, there are cultural differences between us and the Jocks, the Hun and the Taffies, and they all hate the English.

    Me and a friend made up a racist slur. We were sick of hearing people refer to the good people of India as "Pakis", it's highly ignorant and massively disrespectful, since the Indians tend to really hate Pakistanis, so we came up with our own insult for the Indians, as a show of respect... Bollywog. I would hope even Indians find that one funny.
    I would like to make it clear that I believe this person is absolutely *not* representative of a typical UK citizen.

    That is all.
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    Chinky is fairly widely used in this country to refer to their food, ie "I'm huingry, shall we have an Indian or a Chinky?"
    Also, obv this isn't true either.

    If by "widely used" he actually means him, his two friends, some old people and a few *hugely minority* racist types then fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roid_Rage View Post
    When did I ever say I think people are completely stupid for being offended by a word/words?
    When did I ever say you thought people were completely stupid for being offended by word/words? I said you don't seem to understand HOW it is people get offended by words.

    Quote Originally Posted by Roid_Rage View Post
    Seriously though, as a resident of the USA, I'm deeply offended by being called an American. It's omg so offensive like so srz rite nao.

    Will probably get bashed for this, but Dan is right, people need to settle the fuck down. I understand racism is a big deal to some people still, but jfc. Ol' Billy Bob doesn't give a fuck if you call him a shotgun wielding, NASCAR fanboy, Busch Light chuggin, fatass redneck (ok some might) but being called an 'Oriental' should seriously not be offensive. -____- Gook, chink, etc is offensive, but lolOriental.

    Idk maybe I'm just a boorish, uneducated 'Murkican.
    Here is where you don't seem to understand how racial slurs can be offensive.

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    Clearly, neither does surviva, yet people think I'm a racist, ignorant, douchebag while his explanation is acceptable? Hypocrites gonna hypocrite.
    I don't know if you're racist. Actually, I believe you are in addition to most people (yes, I believe most people are racist even if they don't want/like to admit it). However, you do come off as ignorant in not understanding the fact that a racial slur can be offensive. You use the fact that white people being called a "shotgun wielding, NASCAR fanboy, Busch Light chuggin, fatass redneck" don't get offended...but that's because there's no history to white people being treated unfairly in this country.

    Since Louis CK was already mentioned in this thread, I'll let him explain: YouTube - Louis CK - Being White

    I timestamped it to 2:10 (doesn't seem to work though) even though I think you should watch the entire thing. Sums this thread up pretty well.
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