Side effect of banning of poker(is obviously FTR turning on each other)

[OngBonga]

Been away for a few days, missed some action here huh?

(although Nigga is obv ok in hiphop/gangsta flicks)

This quote tells me everything that's wrong with the general moron's attitude towards racism. Don't anyone dare say an offensive word (unless it's a black person in a hip-hop video).

No. Sorry. Not having it. If anyone thinks it is ok for black people to say nigger, but not white people, then it is they who are racist.

Here in the UK, there is an organisation called National Black Police Association, which, as its name suggests, is an organisation for black police officers, designed to improve the working conditions of black police. Now, anyone who dares to have a private organisation for white people only is racist.

Fucking hypocrisy.

Most of you fucking idiots don't know what it means to be racist.

[kevster]

Most of you fucking idiots don't know what it means to be racist.

Not but you're clearly studying it, right? Please report back your findings.

[OngBonga]

@ 'rilla...

It's nice to see someone put some thought into this.

Just to clear one thing up, I don't use the term Paki, but I haven't got a problem with its use if it explicitly describes Pakistani people, and not people who look a bit like them. The term "Paki shop" was extremely common here in the UK in the 70's, the PC brigade have succeeded into turning a nickname for the corner shop into something offensive. The people who used the term didn't make it offensive, other people did. The term gollywog wasn't offensive when referring to the doll, until someone decided it was. Times are changing, soon it will be against the law to say "fat", we'll have to say "larger than average" or "horizontally challenged" or some shit.

I realise that some people are offended by certain words. If I know this when I meet someone, I try not to use those words. There are some words I obviously do not use in certain company, Paki is certainly one of those words. But then, I don't have a problem with these words so long as the context is not aggressive.

So a question... is it acceptable for Americans to mock the English for having bad teeth? It doesn't offend me, but then what if I say it does? Does that make anyone who's offending me with such claims a racist? Of course not. I should lighten up.

But, I'm gonna be an arse for a minute (just a minute though). I don't like being called a Brit, it's either Briton or English. I also don't like white caucasian, I prefer Anglo-Saxon. I'm skinny, but I prefer the term lean. Finally, please don't ever refer to me as a dopehead, junkie or waster, I prefer stoner.

We can all be offended by whatever we want. I'm not saying people can't be. I don't care what offends people. All I care about is my intentions, that's all I can control. What offends others is their business.

My concience is clear, there's no hatred in me.

Yes, my last post might be rough, but it's not racist. I don't think there should be a Black Police Association, that's what I think is racism. It is a group that excludes people based on their skin colour. A White Police Association would cause outrage, and rightly so. Why doesn't the black equivelent do the same? Because people are scared of being branded racist. People are too stupid to recognise institutionalised racism, they think that words make people racist. You said "Paki shop"? RACIST!!! This is why I think people are idiots.

[surviva316]

Just to clear one thing up, I don't use the term Paki, but I haven't got a problem with its use if it explicitly describes Pakistani people, and not people who look a bit like them. The term "Paki shop" was extremely common here in the UK in the 70's, the PC brigade have succeeded into turning a nickname for the corner shop into something offensive. The people who used the term didn't make it offensive, other people did. The term gollywog wasn't offensive when referring to the doll, until someone decided it was. Times are changing, soon it will be against the law to say "fat", we'll have to say "larger than average" or "horizontally challenged" or some shit.

I realise that some people are offended by certain words. If I know this when I meet someone, I try not to use those words. There are some words I obviously do not use in certain company, Paki is certainly one of those words. But then, I don't have a problem with these words so long as the context is not aggressive.

see, but you're making the point for me here:

1) it's not against the law to use any word at all. i know you're being hyperbolic for effect, but there's a serious difference here. you can say whatever the fuck you want in the eyes of your gov't (except a few extreme cases of people hanging nazi flags at their campus and being asked to take it down or getting a more severe sentence for calling someone the N-word or calling them a fagot while assaulting them). you just might offend some people if you use certain words in certain contexts, and some might perceive you as a douche if you don't seem to care about it, and some might even call you the R-word for it.

2) it's NOT acceptable for you to call someone fat, and there are a million situations where people prefer to find different ways of expressing it, or just avoid it altogether. when i met the roommate i'd be living with and realized she was pretty hefty, i found a sly way of telling my girlfriend "she didn't need to worry about anything happening because she's far from attractive." what exactly i said wouldnt' make sense here because it's a bit of an inside joke, but the point is, if i'd said "don't worry, she's a big, fat slob," then there'd be a chance my girlfriend would think i was being a prick and be defensive OF A COMPLETE STRANGER! you might say my girlfriend (and most girls) are overly sensitive to this sort of thing, but i also know that there's a lot of pressure on girls to be attractive and in a lot of ways it's nailed into their heads that being fat is like the ultimate taboo and the worst thing you could possibly be (like a guy being gay), so it's a touchy subject. i don't wholly understand, but whatever, it's not worth it to convince every girl i talk to to stop being such a sappy pussy over the whole thing, and in the interest of not being an asshole, i accommodate.

there will NEVER be a law against saying "fat," but you can see that it operates in much the same way as other touchy subjects of discriminated peoples (even in the way that fat people can get away with making a lot more fat jokes, etc)

[surviva316]

So a question... is it acceptable for Americans to mock the English for having bad teeth? It doesn't offend me, but then what if I say it does? Does that make anyone who's offending me with such claims a racist? Of course not. I should lighten up.

But, I'm gonna be an arse for a minute (just a minute though). I don't like being called a Brit, it's either Briton or English. I also don't like white caucasian, I prefer Anglo-Saxon. I'm skinny, but I prefer the term lean. Finally, please don't ever refer to me as a dopehead, junkie or waster, I prefer stoner.

We can all be offended by whatever we want. I'm not saying people can't be. I don't care what offends people. All I care about is my intentions, that's all I can control. What offends others is their business.

i already addressed this when i made the point about how you're a white, healthy, heterosexual male so you don't understand being offended by words or being discriminated against; this doesn't mean that people who DO get offended by certain things are stupid.

i think rilla makes really good points and words it really well (especially with the "that's my white male perspective, but does that make me wrong?"). we don't know what it's like, we CAN'T know what it's like, and we're just left guessing on a lot of things. like rilla, i'd like to think that in their shoes, i wouldn't get so offended, and in fact i have the type of sense of humor to where i'm pretty sure if i were fat i'd be the type of jolly fat guy who laughs at himself all the time, etc, so maybe i wouldn't be all up in arms if i had darker skin over people using certain words, etc?

point is, i don't know. i tend to give other people the benefit of the MASSIVE amount of doubt and play it on the safer side (the touchier the subject and the less i understand where the other person is coming from, the safer i tend, like i don't play it all that safe with terrorist jokes with BooG because it doesn't seem to be all that touchy of a subject, and i don't play it safe with jesusdiedlol jokes because i understand where they're coming from and i think it's all a heap of shit that i can't make jokes about it).

[OngBonga]

i already addressed this when i made the point about how you're a white, healthy, heterosexual male so you don't understand being offended by words or being discriminated against; this doesn't mean that people who DO get offended by certain things are stupid.

It shouldn't matter whether I'm white, black, healthy or not. However, I do indeed know what it means to be discriminated against and called names, I had retard and spacker at school for years. It's not nice, but then it's not the worst thing that can happen. I'd rather be called a spastic than punched in the face.

And I never suggested that those who get offended are stupid... I said they were too sensetive.

[surviva316]

It shouldn't matter whether I'm white, black, healthy or not. However, I do indeed know what it means to be discriminated against and called names, I had retard and spacker at school for years. It's not nice, but then it's not the worst thing that can happen. I'd rather be called a spastic than punched in the face.

And I never suggested that those who get offended are stupid... I said they were too sensetive.

what's this should or shouldn't matter crap? it DOES matter! you can't change that. if you have not discriminatable quality about you, then you're not going to understand discrimination [period] being called names in grade school is NOOOOOOOOOT the same.

jesus, next thing you know you're going to accuse me of being racist for saying because i'm saying that black people are allowed to be discriminated against and you're not. THAT'S UNFAIR!

[boost]

Been away for a few days, missed some action here huh?



This quote tells me everything that's wrong with the general moron's attitude towards racism. Don't anyone dare say an offensive word (unless it's a black person in a hip-hop video).

No. Sorry. Not having it. If anyone thinks it is ok for black people to say nigger, but not white people, then it is they who are racist.

Here in the UK, there is an organisation called National Black Police Association, which, as its name suggests, is an organisation for black police officers, designed to improve the working conditions of black police. Now, anyone who dares to have a private organisation for white people only is racist.

Fucking hypocrisy.

Most of you fucking idiots don't know what it means to be racist.

Awesome level bro.

[baudib]

Here in the UK, there is an organisation called National Black Police Association, which, as its name suggests, is an organisation for black police officers, designed to improve the working conditions of black police. Now, anyone who dares to have a private organisation for white people only is racist.

Fucking hypocrisy.

Most of you fucking idiots don't know what it means to be racist.

OB: For someone who has complained about other people being overly sensitive and claimed three times in this thread that you have no hate in you, you do seem to have a lot of pent-up anger and resentment.

Of course, real racism/discrimination/prejudice (they are different things) rarely has anything to do with hate. Full-blown open hate is easy enough to deal with.