Quote Originally Posted by ImSavy View Post
There's just absolutely no challenge in that though.

The sense of achievement I got when I started beating my dad at stuff (he'd never let me win) is so much better than if he'd have let me win. Also teaches you to think about how you get better at stuff and learning. There will be times when the person losing will get annoyed and angry, as a kid especially, but it teaches you to deal with it.

It also teaches you not to be a fgt who goes "ohh it's the fun of playing not winning" which is the most important thing.
Meh, my older brother was never that big on video games so he never stood a chance. There's quite a challenge in throwing a game without making it obvious, and it's not like I did it all the time. Plus, there was a tipping point around the 6th or 7th loss where he'd just punch me lol

On your argument that winning is the most important thing, you're way off. Take chess - would you rather hulksmash your 6 year old niece 10 times in a row, or have 10 close matches (that you lose) against a better opponent? That's why winning isn't everything.

Some of the most fun I've had online have been matches I've lost - but admittedly, I was trying my damn hardest in each of them (no mercy for randoms!).