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    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post
    [...]because some idiot robbed a place and tried to beat the shit out of a cop who told him to stop standing in the middle of the road and got shot in the process. Somebody call the NAACP because this cop should lose his job.
    For the record, you're taking the police side of the story at full face value, without nuance.

    No one I know believes the fantastical villain you describe was on the scene that night. Nor would they defend said villainy.

    As I understand it:
    The victim was unarmed, the cop had reason to believe he was unarmed. The victim was shot many times by said cop, while witnesses on the scene say that the victim was not moving toward the officer when the shots were fired.

    Witnesses say he did not try to beat up the cop. The cop was sitting in his vehicle, and asked to see ID, and the perp reached into the vehicle instead of holding his ID outside the vehicle. That makes cops nervous, but it's not an attack.

    Besides, the shooting took place many minutes after that. It was really an unrelated incident. Sure, the reaching of the arm into the vehicle made the cop nervous, and distrustful, but the cop didn't immediately draw a weapon or attempt to physically subdue his "assailant".

    The video of him robbing a store was not a related incident.


    The standing in the road bit has no place in your argument.

    EDIT: Pooty T is from the streets. How you gonna tell Pooty he can't walk across the street? youknowimsayin?
    Last edited by MadMojoMonkey; 10-23-2014 at 11:07 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    For the record, you're taking the police side of the story at full face value, without nuance.

    No one I know believes the fantastical villain you describe was on the scene that night. Nor would they defend said villainy.

    As I understand it:
    The victim was unarmed, the cop had reason to believe he was unarmed. The victim was shot many times by said cop, while witnesses on the scene say that the victim was not moving toward the officer when the shots were fired.

    Witnesses say he did not try to beat up the cop. The cop was sitting in his vehicle, and asked to see ID, and the perp reached into the vehicle instead of holding his ID outside the vehicle. That makes cops nervous, but it's not an attack.

    Besides, the shooting took place many minutes after that. It was really an unrelated incident. Sure, the reaching of the arm into the vehicle made the cop nervous, and distrustful, but the cop didn't immediately draw a weapon or attempt to physically subdue his "assailant".

    The video of him robbing a store was not a related incident.


    The standing in the road bit has no place in your argument.

    EDIT: Pooty T is from the streets. How you gonna tell Pooty he can't walk across the street? youknowimsayin?
    Okay I know you're the kind of guy who likes to have information before you form an opinion, but you're basing your opinion on information that was available on day one or day two only instead of everything else that has came out, and I'm confident that you'll feel much differently once you have the newer information.

    I'm not basing anything I said on "the police side of the story." Instead, I'm basing it on the physical evidence and witness testimony that matches with the physical evidence.

    Brown standing in the road is relevant because it's why Wilson stopped in the first place and it shows that Brown was looking for a confrontation. It was very much known as a thing in that area (and in many other parts of the United States) for people to stand in the road to try to provoke confrontation with people driving. It's fucking retarded, but unfortunately it's a thing, and it's what started the whole deal.

    The video of Brown's robbery is relevant because it shows that he was engaging in violent behavior not very long before he attacked the cop (after provoking the conflict by the above).
    Last edited by spoonitnow; 10-24-2014 at 08:56 AM.

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