Something I should say more often

[OngBonga]

You mean white lives matter?

No, I think I like "fuck the system" as an all-inclusive catchphrase.

Should we start from the smallest problems or the biggest ones?

No, we should recognise that racism against blacks and racism against whites is the same problem.

If you still feel I'm somehow dismissive of racism against whites because I feel it's a far smaller problem than racism against pretty much everyone else, I don't know what to say.

I get that you're saying that racism against whites isn't cool. My problem is that you imply heavily that it's not a priority, that racism against blacks is a bigger problem. I don't agree, I consider them problems of equal magnitude because it's the same problem.

After saying like 3 separate times how I acknowledge there's racism against whites, and how I think there's nothing cool or justifiable about that, it's does feel like you're not hearing me at all for some reason.

Should we start from the smallest problems or the biggest ones?

There's the implication than these are different problems of different sizes that need dealing with separately. Whether you explicitly say it or not, you see racism against blacks as worse than racism against whites. That's the message you're giving me. That's why I'm not "hearing" you when you say one thing but imply another.

I think we're fucked, personally. I think the division is too deep, that we're heading for civil wars in USA and UK. The powers that be have been actively doing their best to create the conditions for social unrest. What's their game? My best guess is that they're preparing to impose fascism. First get everyone fighting, and then the state has the justification to clamp down, taking away freedoms in the process. They've been eroding our freedoms for a long time, the idea of free speech in 2020 is laughable. In the UK, some teenagers got arrested for saying mean things about Floyd on Twitter. We're already at the point where hurting someone's feelings can be a criminal offence.

But I don't know what their game is. But they are definitely playing a game, and we are definitely the pawns.

[CoccoBill]

There's the implication than these are different problems of different sizes that need dealing with separately. Whether you explicitly say it or not, you see racism against blacks as worse than racism against whites. That's the message you're giving me. That's why I'm not "hearing" you when you say one thing but imply another.

Sorry if I haven't been clear. I very explicitly mean that it's worse for the blacks. Not in the sense that a black person getting beat up for racial reasons is worse than a white person getting beat up for racial reasons, but that racism against blacks is far more deep-rooted, prevalent, systemic and severe. I for one can not count a single instance in my life where I'd been on the receiving end of racism, while for every single person of color here it's probably a weekly thing. And we don't even have a history of slavery or colonialism.

What I see on your videos (how I interpret them) are blacks retaliating against whites, I'm fairly sure those instances would not have happened if blacks had not first been the subject of racism from white people. If that's the case it doesn't make any of it justifiable, but also makes them a different thing than what I understand as racism. My hypothesis is this: blacks face racism from whites because they're black, whites face racism from blacks because they have been oppressing blacks. Fix the former, fix the latter.

[Poopadoop]

What I see on your videos (how I interpret them) are blacks retaliating against whites,

While I can understand their anger, I don't think it's forgivable for black people to take out their frustrations on the first white person they see.

To use an ananlogy, it's one thing for slaves to rise up and kill the slaveowner, it's quite another for them to kill some random guy walking by who is the same colour as the slaveowner.

If the white guy in the video had done something to provoke them, then that's different. But if he was just on his way to the shop for a loaf of bread, then beating his ass is not ok, no matter how oppressed you are.

[oskar]

My hypothesis is this: blacks face racism from whites because they're black, whites face racism from blacks because they have been oppressing blacks. Fix the former, fix the latter.

I would even say it's absolutely pathetic for a white person in the west to claim they are victims of racism by a minority. They might be subjected to prejudice, but the reason it's pathetic to call that racism is because you're in a position of power. You're not getting oppressed by blacks in a country where the republican senate is pure white, where the pure white administration is polling at 1% with ethnic minorities who are obviously not feeling represented and where you have a criminal justice system that is demonstrably systemically racist.