Wow Ong. One guy getting beat up by two other guys. You're right, it's out of control.
06-13-2020 10:36 AM
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Wow Ong. One guy getting beat up by two other guys. You're right, it's out of control. | |
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06-13-2020 12:08 PM
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It's telling that you think the burden belongs on the oppressed. Also your veiled "[x] group rose up and became respectable" argument is tired. Your Scott Adams slight of hand nonsense is weaksauce, but I will admit, it's fun to watch. | |
06-13-2020 12:17 PM
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Sorry my mistake, this clearly isn't a problem, just pretend it's not happening and assume this is literally the only example. Don't forget to post more fake news supporting your narrative while not asking the question why anyone would need to fake such footage if it were actually happening. | |
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06-13-2020 12:50 PM
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Ok it's a serious problem single white men being set on and beaten by black guys. Let's do something like I dunno, have an All Lives Matter rally, or I dunno, call the cops on the guys who beat him up. | |
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06-13-2020 01:37 PM
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I feel deep sympathy for all the wronged and oppressed heterosexual young white men of the world. After all, they have to beat incredible odds to not succeed. Let's all hold hands in prayer. | |
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06-13-2020 01:46 PM
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Yeah, because the Irish haven't had to suffer the might of the British Empire. The Irish don't get discriminated against. Just a white kid, fuck him. He should've used his privilege better. | |
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06-13-2020 01:47 PM
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06-13-2020 01:57 PM
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06-13-2020 01:59 PM
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06-13-2020 02:05 PM
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No, it was because they were Irish. Are you making a point here? Because if so, it went over my head. The best I can figure is "xenophobia isn't racism", which is something I agree with. Maybe you're saying "racism is worse than xenophobia", which isn't necessarily something I agree with and depends on the context. I mean, starving a nation seems a little worse than calling someone a mean word. | |
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06-13-2020 02:42 PM
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The point was that this whole discussion has been about racism, and I find it very hard to classify the Northern Ireland situation to have much to do with it. Religion and politics mainly I think, I could be more informed about the history. Yes, some white people undeniably face degrees of racism, just like every other "race". But as a white man I'd say there's no one that has it better than "us" on the planet. Let's concentrate on that after the bigger issues have been fixed. You and wuf are of course free to at any time organize a movement to fix the white racism issues, but it's not on my list of priorities. | |
06-13-2020 02:50 PM
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But it's also not good to just completely ignore racism against whites. Just the other day I was walking down a hallway when I saw a coin on the floor. When I went to pick it up, I noticed it was stuck to the floor with gum. As I got up, I heard the sound of an indian girl laughing. I turned around, but no one was there. Obviously I can't prove it, but it felt racially motivated. | |
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06-13-2020 03:22 PM
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06-13-2020 03:24 PM
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06-13-2020 03:26 PM
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06-13-2020 03:28 PM
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06-13-2020 03:30 PM
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06-13-2020 03:34 PM
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No Coco you're supposed to find the evidence to support Ong's arguments yourself. Jeez man, get with it. | |
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06-13-2020 03:34 PM
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06-13-2020 03:39 PM
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06-13-2020 03:44 PM
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The problem is, you guys take my comments to the extreme. I have a problem with the political aspect of BLM, and you guys interpret that as "BLM is bullshit". You actively push me to the extremes and I end up arguing about how I'm not actually saying what you think I'm saying. | |
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06-13-2020 03:48 PM
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06-13-2020 04:02 PM
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What I mean specifically is, that as long as there's the kind of racism that most blacks have to live with, whataboutism about the grievances of white people are laughable in comparison. Like I already said, I know there's racism against whites, just like every fukin body. I think white's are the least affected by racism out of everyone. Diverting the conversations from blm to The Great White Suffering as if they somehow compare is pathetic. | |
06-13-2020 04:04 PM
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Today's discussion isn't about the broader political motiviation of BLM, as much as you wish it was since you talked yourself into a corner so quickly. | |
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06-13-2020 04:06 PM
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It's just triage. Heal the most immediate cases immediately, then heal the less immediate cases. | |
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06-13-2020 05:25 PM
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06-13-2020 05:36 PM
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Terrorists win. | |
06-13-2020 05:39 PM
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This thread is the reason why I refuse to engage honestly in this discussion: https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/st...38988206604289 | |
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06-13-2020 07:55 PM
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06-13-2020 07:57 PM
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06-13-2020 08:00 PM
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Nice use of the buzzword "whataboutism". This isn't me going "omg what about black people being racist too", this is me saying "white people are victims too". | |
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06-13-2020 08:02 PM
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cocco is proving that racism against whites is socially acceptable, by the way. | |
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06-13-2020 08:29 PM
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You mean white lives matter? | |
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06-14-2020 12:33 AM
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End racism against whites :'( | |
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06-14-2020 01:04 AM
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06-14-2020 05:13 AM
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06-14-2020 05:58 AM
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Sorry if I haven't been clear. I very explicitly mean that it's worse for the blacks. Not in the sense that a black person getting beat up for racial reasons is worse than a white person getting beat up for racial reasons, but that racism against blacks is far more deep-rooted, prevalent, systemic and severe. I for one can not count a single instance in my life where I'd been on the receiving end of racism, while for every single person of color here it's probably a weekly thing. And we don't even have a history of slavery or colonialism. | |
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06-14-2020 06:13 AM
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While I can understand their anger, I don't think it's forgivable for black people to take out their frustrations on the first white person they see. | |
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06-14-2020 06:23 AM
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Yes exactly, that's why it's hard to say anything without the context. If the attack was unprovoked and happened just because he was white, that's just as bad as any racist attack, no matter by whom against who. If he provoked it somehow, that makes it a bit different, at least in the aspect of how to prevent it from happening again. Still, regardless of what happened there, I see no parallels with systemic police brutality here, and no reason to even bring any of this up when talking about BLM. | |
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06-14-2020 07:04 AM
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06-14-2020 08:20 AM
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^^ It's been pretty surreal the last couple of weeks. Both the Daily Mail and even before them the Telegraph (two pretty right wing papers) have suddenly gotten all soft and cuddly. They're trashing the gov't over its handling of CV, and criticising Boris. | |
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06-14-2020 08:21 AM
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06-14-2020 08:24 AM
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^^ Guess it's the next best thing to chanting racist stuff at black players. | |
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06-14-2020 08:57 AM
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06-14-2020 09:13 AM
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I don't care about whose fault anything is, I'm just interested in solutions, which is what I see BLM being about. But let's entertain your notionfor a sec, who should be responsible then? No one? The blacks? *Shrug*? "Let's just hope it goes away, someone else's problem" is exactly the reason we are in this situation. | |
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06-14-2020 09:34 AM
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06-14-2020 09:38 AM
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Seems like BLM has accomplished something. | |
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06-14-2020 10:30 AM
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06-14-2020 10:37 AM
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That's not what I see from BLM. I see radicals recruiting liberals to their cause. The cause it supremacy, but the message is equality. It's just the means to equality is blame, guilt, and censoring history. | |
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06-14-2020 10:41 AM
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I would even say it's absolutely pathetic for a white person in the west to claim they are victims of racism by a minority. They might be subjected to prejudice, but the reason it's pathetic to call that racism is because you're in a position of power. You're not getting oppressed by blacks in a country where the republican senate is pure white, where the pure white administration is polling at 1% with ethnic minorities who are obviously not feeling represented and where you have a criminal justice system that is demonstrably systemically racist. | |
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06-14-2020 12:46 PM
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I hope CHAZ is more than just a drum circle. |
06-14-2020 01:41 PM
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06-14-2020 02:07 PM
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How is it you manage to state the blindingly obvious in a way that seems confrontational, wuf? | |
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06-14-2020 02:22 PM
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I have ideas. Why do you think? |
06-14-2020 02:29 PM
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Anybody know of a twitter account that dutifully covers the legitimate peaceful side of the current happenings as well as the wrongly-violent side of the police? |
06-14-2020 02:36 PM
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The rest of my post is me explaining my point vis-a-vis your post I was responding to. | |
Last edited by MadMojoMonkey; 06-14-2020 at 02:40 PM.
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06-14-2020 02:38 PM
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I avoid twitter as a source with 0 accountability and a magnet for fake news and rage posting. | |
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06-14-2020 03:03 PM
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06-14-2020 03:35 PM
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I posted the comment that I've experienced a lot of racism because I thought it might generate some interesting discussion on race. |
06-14-2020 04:03 PM
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I mean, I've been on the receiving end of racism, by police and by regular people on the street / bus / train. | |
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06-14-2020 05:20 PM
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Thank you for sharing. That was good to read. |
06-14-2020 05:28 PM
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Thank you also, for sharing. | |
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06-14-2020 05:54 PM
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From personal experience, I once overheard Obama get called a nigger. |
06-14-2020 09:57 PM
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Lets set aside any one-sided things you heard and focus on conversations. | |
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06-15-2020 10:04 PM
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That's one of the best posts in a long time. |